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Postato da Tik-Tok, 15.08.2014 - 19:05
Ukraine fired upon Russian convoy entering Ukranian territory. Russia claims it was aid, Ukraine claims it was arms. Hard to tell, the trucks looked pretty empty on inspection as if they had been cleared out. Then again, Russia sneaks in arms without requiring known convoy. It could have been aid.

Regardless, its caused very high tensions and minor crashes in stocks. Some precit WW3 by Sunday, I doubt it. Its still a very tense situation.

The Azov battalion were the ones who fired upon the convoy.

>Based Azov
>With genuine National Socialist symbolism
>tfw Fascists and Nationalists across Europe using Ukraine for combat experience like Jihadis in Syria
>inb4 commie jabba the hurtbutt.
21.08.2014 - 07:29
Scritto da Pheonixking929, 21.08.2014 at 07:16

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 21.08.2014 at 07:10

Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35


last i checked.... it was the british and french that divided up the middle east into mandates (colonies).



please dont play with words.poteito, potato.The british-the west-the alliance.I ll rephrase then, Kuwait was British invention, they made Kuwait and drew its borders after ww1, so they have a port in the Gulf.




Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35


if saddam had seized saudi arabias oil fields he would have controlled roughly 40 percent of the oil produced in the middle east.




So what?Why do you care?You are on the other side of the planet, why you think you must have a say in Middle East affairs?Yes because you are imperialistic,agreesive, power hungry nation, who try to control Middle East and its resources, we know.Then you wonder why Arabs and "jihadists" hates you..and only you for that matter.




Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35

furthermore, it was saddam hussein who invaded iran first and started the longest conventional war of the 20th century. a million people died and if you didnt know this, yeah chemical weapons were used.




Seriously, again?Whats the matter really, dont you have internet in Usa?You only listen to CNN and come here to debate?
Who helped Saddam in this "longest conventional war of the 20th century"?Billions and billions of dollars spent by USA to help Saddam Husein and Iraq win the war against Iran.Weapons,technology,training,intelligence,vehicles,chemical weapons, you name it.And all this is proven by documents, even the washington post published it, so you should know about it.In the 1994 report, we can see Usa transfered to Iraq, large ammounts of pathogenic,toxigenic and other biological materials, capable of reproduction.Including fucking anthrax and the bubonic plague.It is also proven, that not only The Usa government knew that Sadam was using these weapons to exterminate the Iranians, but even when Iraq used them to murder Kurd civilians, it still didnt care and did nothing.So much for the Usa who care about injustice and oppression lol.Also another interesting fact.Do you know that these "materials" the Usa shiped on Iraq, was exactly the same, as the ones the UN inspectors found when they visit Iraq after?Yeah..


Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35

Lastly, iraqs army did not scare us.....




I didnt say Iraq's army scared you.I said Sadam.If Sadam seized Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, he would become the strongest figure in the Middle East.He would have a strong position, could control oil prices, would have money to rebuilt and get more weapons, peace with Iran and then he would be able to challenge Usa's supremacy in the Middle East.Usa wouldnt have that.

well yeah, they did draw up borders in the middle eats. like i said, they set up mandates. and dont act like bbcause the british and french decided to set up colonies in the middle east that we had everything to do with that. you are just being idiotic right now. go read up on what mandates are suppose to be. and why do we care? where do you think we get our oil from? ya think we would want to support a dictatorship again? you think we want to buy oil at a higher price? you think we want kuwait and saudi arabia to live under fear and repression? get off your high horse. america and the coalition it spearheaded liberated kuwait. a country full of people that consider themselves kuwaiti. a country like every other nation in the world that was drawn up by men. if you are going to talk stupid, i will not respond. but sure, keep yelling how evil america is.



talk stupid?whats that, is that new?I have my own opinions and i try to be subjective, analyzing the facts and setting clear premises that help me reach my conclusions.If the premises are unclear, you can ask me to elaborate my points further and i will do it.You and people like you (marcus and tito) on the other hand, i cant stand.You just post your ignorant,biased, propaganda driven opinions and deliberately ignore any counter arguments and facts the opposition provides.I would like to see you guys in the future, more informed and more open-minded.It doesnt hurt to admitt shit that your country do.In the end its not your fault, but your governments.But by supporting your government, you are criminals and if you continue so, i will treat you like ones.

You suffer from the same thing Tito does btw.Its called willfull ignorance.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Willful_ignorance
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21.08.2014 - 07:36
Scritto da Khal.eesi, 21.08.2014 at 07:29

Scritto da Pheonixking929, 21.08.2014 at 07:16

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 21.08.2014 at 07:10

Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35


last i checked.... it was the british and french that divided up the middle east into mandates (colonies).



please dont play with words.poteito, potato.The british-the west-the alliance.I ll rephrase then, Kuwait was British invention, they made Kuwait and drew its borders after ww1, so they have a port in the Gulf.




Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35


if saddam had seized saudi arabias oil fields he would have controlled roughly 40 percent of the oil produced in the middle east.




So what?Why do you care?You are on the other side of the planet, why you think you must have a say in Middle East affairs?Yes because you are imperialistic,agreesive, power hungry nation, who try to control Middle East and its resources, we know.Then you wonder why Arabs and "jihadists" hates you..and only you for that matter.




Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35

furthermore, it was saddam hussein who invaded iran first and started the longest conventional war of the 20th century. a million people died and if you didnt know this, yeah chemical weapons were used.




Seriously, again?Whats the matter really, dont you have internet in Usa?You only listen to CNN and come here to debate?
Who helped Saddam in this "longest conventional war of the 20th century"?Billions and billions of dollars spent by USA to help Saddam Husein and Iraq win the war against Iran.Weapons,technology,training,intelligence,vehicles,chemical weapons, you name it.And all this is proven by documents, even the washington post published it, so you should know about it.In the 1994 report, we can see Usa transfered to Iraq, large ammounts of pathogenic,toxigenic and other biological materials, capable of reproduction.Including fucking anthrax and the bubonic plague.It is also proven, that not only The Usa government knew that Sadam was using these weapons to exterminate the Iranians, but even when Iraq used them to murder Kurd civilians, it still didnt care and did nothing.So much for the Usa who care about injustice and oppression lol.Also another interesting fact.Do you know that these "materials" the Usa shiped on Iraq, was exactly the same, as the ones the UN inspectors found when they visit Iraq after?Yeah..


Scritto da Pheonixking929, 20.08.2014 at 23:35

Lastly, iraqs army did not scare us.....




I didnt say Iraq's army scared you.I said Sadam.If Sadam seized Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, he would become the strongest figure in the Middle East.He would have a strong position, could control oil prices, would have money to rebuilt and get more weapons, peace with Iran and then he would be able to challenge Usa's supremacy in the Middle East.Usa wouldnt have that.

well yeah, they did draw up borders in the middle eats. like i said, they set up mandates. and dont act like bbcause the british and french decided to set up colonies in the middle east that we had everything to do with that. you are just being idiotic right now. go read up on what mandates are suppose to be. and why do we care? where do you think we get our oil from? ya think we would want to support a dictatorship again? you think we want to buy oil at a higher price? you think we want kuwait and saudi arabia to live under fear and repression? get off your high horse. america and the coalition it spearheaded liberated kuwait. a country full of people that consider themselves kuwaiti. a country like every other nation in the world that was drawn up by men. if you are going to talk stupid, i will not respond. but sure, keep yelling how evil america is.



talk stupid?whats that, is that new?I have my own opinions and i try to be subjective, analyzing the facts and setting clear premises that help me reach my conclusions.If the premises are unclear, you can ask me to elaborate my points further and i will do it.You and people like you (marcus and tito) on the other hand, i cant stand.You just post your ignorant,biased, propaganda driven opinions and deliberately ignore any counter arguments and facts the opposition provides.I would like to see you guys in the future, more informed and more open-minded.It doesnt hurt to admitt shit that your country do.In the end its not your fault, but your governments.But by supporting your government, you are criminals and if you continue so, i will treat you like ones.

You suffer from the same thing Tito does btw.Its called willfull ignorance.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Willful_ignorance

again, if you just use your hatred for america as evidence for why your argument is valid, then im going to put that in the stupid category. im not here to listen to why you hate america. but sure, keep acting like you're country is great. btw, ost people who i've talked to who spout about propaganda are the people who live in countries with state run media, with state run propaganda. im done talking to you. if you want to reply to this, be my guess. dont expect a reply back. im sure you'll use your time to make false accusations expecting me to reply back. i wont. and im sure you might say how i am a coward of some sort for not dwelling deeper into an internet forum discussion that you have turned into a one sided argument. again, i wont reply. good day.
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21.08.2014 - 08:19
Scritto da Quantum027, 20.08.2014 at 23:49


lets deal with the first paragraph, Kuwait wasnt created by America, it was a british colony pre-ww1 and stayed british until after ww2 when they all started gaining independence with arab spring, had no involvement with usa other than that both were with UK so stop trying to act like we planned this for 100 years. They were invaded and to protect the people and our interests there we sent aid, they called us to help them, something you seem to ignore in every little rant you throw, when someone asks America for help, your damn right we are gonna help, now Ukraine isnt asking for US involvement and neither is the dozens of African Countries in Civil Revolt (which through UN funding USA is trying to help but its much different as its a more guerrilla/nomadic fighting than something America can actually help with). Stop trying to compare things that arent the same, because they arent.Yes, the United States is heavily into World Affairs which I think it both productive and unproductive to our relations with the world, but as I said before if someone asks for our help against an invasion, your damn right we are gonna help. If Kebab invaded Greece and you all asked Europe to help would you want them to say "too bad it isnt our fight you can be destroyed" no that is what allies are for.


Yes it was British ok.almost the same thing.

So if any country in the world, asked for your help, militarily, against an opressive opponent, you would gladly help?Without concerns about human lifes and dollars spend?Are you standing by this claim of yours?

As for the kebabs, yeah Europe wouldnt do much and America either.And its also proven, we dont have to speculate and go far.Look at the 1974 Turk invasion on Cyprus.We have defended West against the Ottomans since hundreds of years ago and were allies with Usa and Britain since like forever.Yet when the Turks invaded Cyprus, they stood by and let it happen.So much for the fucking help.If you have allies like that, what do you need enemies for.Moreso, up to this day, nobody recognizes the Turkish Northern Cyprus.It is illegal and the Un says also.Where is America to help remove?I am asking for help yeah.My government asked also?So..where is it?What about the crisis between Greece and Turkey that almost led us to war in 1996 over the small island on Imia?Again Europe and Usa turned its back on us, like it does every day, because it has nothing more to gain from us.So much for helping whenever it is asked.



Scritto da Quantum027, 20.08.2014 at 23:49

yes America does have weapons like chemicals and nuclear weapons bc we invented them, but show me where we have used them against friendly/enemy civilians, or even anyone at all. Just because we have them doesnt mean we are using them



Your ignorance hits record levels.Here, i posted the following some time ago.Im absolutely sure theres more, but im not a proffesor to know them all and i dont feel like searching right now, but i think these will do, to debunk your stupid claim.



Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.08.2014 at 06:10


Also i cant believe Americans have the nerve to talk about chemical weapons.Fucking seriously?Noone here remembers Vietnam?20 million gallons of chemicals, yeah.Babies are still born up to this day, dead or mutated by this fucking shit.How about when Usa was helping their "buddy" Sadam, massacre Iranians and Kurds with chemical weapons 25 years ago?How about when USA used chemicals in Iraq, both in 2003 AND in 2004?Im not even gonna talk about dropping napalm in citizens and 2 nuclear fucking bombs.Yet Americans have the nerve to talk about chemicals in Syria.Using the word absurd or ridiculous doesnt cut it, i need a stronger word here..
Oh almost forgot, did i mention, your bestie, the good boy Israel, your poor friends the Jews that are a victim throughout history and suffered so much and its god's favourite people and bla bla, well they used WHITE FUCKING PHOSPHORUS against palestinian civilians not long ago BUT 4 FUCKING YEARS AGO!I want Usa to bomb and invade Israel!ok?its only fair right?right?right?
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21.08.2014 - 08:26
Scritto da Pheonixking929, 21.08.2014 at 07:36


again, if you just use your hatred for america as evidence for why your argument is valid, then im going to put that in the stupid category. im not here to listen to why you hate america. but sure, keep acting like you're country is great. btw, ost people who i've talked to who spout about propaganda are the people who live in countries with state run media, with state run propaganda. im done talking to you. if you want to reply to this, be my guess. dont expect a reply back. im sure you'll use your time to make false accusations expecting me to reply back. i wont. and im sure you might say how i am a coward of some sort for not dwelling deeper into an internet forum discussion that you have turned into a one sided argument. again, i wont reply. good day.


dont worry i will sleep at night even if you dont reply to me anymore i am posting here, because i see you guys ganging up on Tito and insulting him and his posts, when you are guilty of the same things you accuse him of.Your arguments are biased and reek White house propaganda.I certainly do not hate Usa.I love Usa and its people, i have visited it and if i could get a green card and a good job i would certainly go live there.I hate your government though and your foreign policy and i like the truth.
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21.08.2014 - 09:55
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Scritto da Skanderbeg, 21.08.2014 at 09:33

Stalin soft? ...for fuck sake the very meaning of Stalin is Man of Steel. Stalin a good man? ...mass murderer and a psycho.


Again you show how ignorant you are and how brainwashed you are from western propaganda.

No, east is far better at propaganda ...you are the living proof.

Stalin was a paranoid psychopat who created a cult of his persona ...anyone who does this is a fuckin lunatic in my book.
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21.08.2014 - 10:22
Scritto da Skanderbeg, 21.08.2014 at 09:59

Haha, i like when you - product of propaganda creator say we on the east are brainwashed from propaganda. You are using your tool and putting it in my hands to prove im the bad guy lol. Pathetic and lame, anyone who watch BBC and CCN can see there areno news and informations about world events, only lies and propaganda dictated by UK and US government.

I never watched CNN or BBC in my life ...i barely even watch TV -____- ... and i would spit and did on the west as i spit on east ...thing is with you im spiting on east because you are an east created drone ...in another topic i might slander western politics, but that is highly unnecessary since you spit more then enough ...way too much infact ...with no objectivity.
Heavily biased shit ...im disgusted by many words you said, by many things you defended ...and amazed by your hypocrisy.

Its amazing how world according to you looks like:
• russians wave flags and show nationalism ----> good people, love, they want to spread love!
• any other nation does the same ...ukrainians, germans, croats ... ------> NAZIS!!!! they want to kill people!!

Anyway ...if you were worth anything, being a "proffesor" and all ...you wouldnt spread this shit on some game forum...

Your so pathetic ...im sure even Putin would facepalm himself if he would see all the shit you have wrote here.
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21.08.2014 - 15:33
Scritto da Skanderbeg, 21.08.2014 at 14:43

• Croatian declaration of independence was illegal as people didnt vote for it, only croatian side while serbian side didnt had a vote because they were excused in new croatian constitution

Only gona bother responding to this ...concidering you keep repeating this lie over and over again ...but most things you wrote you keep repeating like a parrot.

I answered you multiple times, gave you direct quote from the croatian constitution in which serbs were specificly named great minority.

Your first lie was that croatian constitution said ...that "croatia is the land of croats" and you called it a nazi constitution.

Croatian constitution from 1990. says ..."The Republic of Croatia is established as the national state of the Croatian nation and the state of members of other nations and minorities who are its citizens: SERBS, Muslims, Slovenes, Czechs, Slovaks, Italians, Hungarians, Jews, and others, who are GUARANTEED EQUALITY with citizens of Croatian nationality and the realization of national rights".

• serbs not excluded
• serbs had right to vote ...some of them probably did, considering thousands of serbs defended their croatian country
• people of croatia ...not only croats, but serbs, muslims, jews others ...voted on the democratic referendum by 94% votes to secede from Yugoslavia
• does who didnt use their right to vote they chose to pick up arms, supported and stirred by serbian radical party ...which i already proven to you had no intent on preserving yugoslavia
• croatia seceded legaly according to the rights given to her by the constitution of the SFRJ <-----fact
• serbs in croatia rebeled and occupied 1/3 of croatian teritory, clensing it from croats, forcing them to leave krajina, they bombed croat cities armed by JNA

• btw. krajina seceded from republic of croatia, it seceded from yugoslavia ...why didnt your JNA attack them, disarmed them, they were by your logic rebels same as croats


There ...all of your posts contain lies like this ...maybe not lies actually ...im thinkin you are just too dumb to understand some things ...or too dumb to first read something before making false accusations and stating something as a fact

Compared croatian constitution to nazi germany ...that is a fuckin insult.

Your masters in beograd used your fear of a ww2 puppet state... thats a fact.
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22.08.2014 - 05:21
Scritto da Skanderbeg, 22.08.2014 at 04:41

You are lousy at law...

- Socialist Yugoslav Constitution granted socialist republics of Yugoslavia to secede
- Croatia deny socialism, deny yugoslavism, accuse Serbia to have pretext to secede
- Croatia changes law and makes serbs minority, while croats after WW2 agreed to make serbs equal nation in Croatia because many serbs died to protect croatia and many serbs died from croatian nazis hands and because serbs live there for 500 years. Thats why in Yugoslavia, Croatia was the land of croats and serbs, not only croats
- New croatian constitution say ''croatia is state of croats and other minorities'', similar constitution was written in Nazi Germany ''Germany is land of germans''
- Croatia althought denied socialism, wanted socialist borders and to secede although they denied socialist constitution [because croatia made new one]

You cant secede because constitution you denied says so, you either accept or deny it, but not both, thats double-standards.

Therefore declaration of independence of Croatia was illegal and immoral as they armed rebels and terrorists who attacked civilians and bringed United States who helped them prolong the war where millions suffered.

Immoral? ...you are really something you know ...you armed serbs in SAO krajina, chetniks came to croatia to kill and rape and you talk to me about morals? ...you had it goin good while you were attacking unarmed people ...cowards, fuckin cowards.

Borders? ...did you want us to secede with different borders in mind? ...our borders would not only remain practicly the same, but we would get more land if croatian borders were to be any historicly different border then the one of yugoslavia republics.

Serbia is the only country that left yugoslav wars with land that she never fuckin owned. Bosnia was never part of serbian kingdom, vojvodina you got after world war when you purged it from germans and hungars.

Kosovo is fuckin karma.

Please tell me is russia or serbia not the land of russians and serbs? ...serbs were btw. specificly named and i told you this already as a great minority!


Stfu btw. already about yugoslavia ...in every fuckin topic you taunt me.
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22.08.2014 - 05:52
Scritto da Skanderbeg, 22.08.2014 at 04:41

You are lousy at law...

- Socialist Yugoslav Constitution granted socialist republics of Yugoslavia to secede
- Croatia deny socialism, deny yugoslavism, accuse Serbia to have pretext to secede


BUAHAHAHAH OH MATE THIS IS GOLDEN I MUST SHARE THIS WITH YOU xDDDD

CONSTITUTION OF SERBIA FROM 1990. ...before croatia and slovenia declared their own:

• REMOVED SOCIALISM FROM THE DOCUMENT

Basicly ...serbia with her many acts during 1990., removing the authonomy of kosovo and vojvodina, removing socialism from its constitution etc. was basicly the first country to secede from constitution of SFRJ...

Such hypocrits and liars



Btw. pls cry one more time how you couldnt go kill unarmed croats for too long, but had to face armed people ...pls cry, pls.
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22.08.2014 - 06:16
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22.08.2014 - 07:50
Ww3 Blah
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22.08.2014 - 15:11
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Scritto da Skanderbeg, 22.08.2014 at 14:47

If Croatia didnt took socialist borders that mean they would end up with County of Zagreb only, as other regions would not be able to decide where to go, Croatia didnt existed for 1000 years and to take all regions where croats live is stupid, that mean Serbia could take all regions where serbs live.

Yugoslav constitution was clear; socialist republics can secede. That mean socialists could, not capitalists.

Again your ignorance is raising to the surface, its really embarassing how little you know, maybe weed you smoke slow down your brain. Bosnia in medieval times where ruled by serbian ban and later kings, one of those kings - Твртко Котроманић (Tvrtko Kotromanic) was crowned for King of Serbia and Bosnia, he said he united serbian people under one state and one king, that was 1377, in 1390 he was crowned for king of Croatia as well, which mean he was the first yugoslav king kinda. That mean bosnia was serbian. Vojvodina or todays name Northern Serbia was hungarian but because Hungary was part of Austria-Hungary and invaded and lost in Serbia, Vojvodina was gave to Serbia as reward plus 500,000 serbs lived there. Thats why it is called Vojvodina which means Dukedom because serbs had Vojvoda / Duke to rule in behalf of austrian crown.

Kosovo is result of serbian bad domestic policy(yugoslav republic of serbia, not led by serbs, croats and slovenians made serbian domestic policy) where they allowed albanians to settle while communists ignored serb appeals(because communist leadership was croatian and slovenian, it was in their interest to split serbia, bring albanians to harass serbs while they secede from yugoslavia) to solve albanian problem as they were raping, killing, abducting, stealing and there was literally no border between albania and kosovo as it couldnt be controled because of albanian mafia.

You need too many years to study and learn more so you can understand things, and even then if you spend years on studying you might stay stupid, because from all posts you made i cant make different conclusion, your comments are sad to read as they show how ignorant you are.

I dont really want to get involved, but i have a question, and excuse if I misunderstand. How is it possible for a Bosnian to become king of Croatia in 1390 if Hungary ruled it?
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22.08.2014 - 15:36
Scritto da Skanderbeg, 22.08.2014 at 14:47

If Croatia didnt took socialist borders that mean they would end up with County of Zagreb only, as other regions would not be able to decide where to go, Croatia didnt existed for 1000 years and to take all regions where croats live is stupid, that mean Serbia could take all regions where serbs live.

Yugoslav constitution was clear; socialist republics can secede. That mean socialists could, not capitalists.

Again your ignorance is raising to the surface, its really embarassing how little you know, maybe weed you smoke slow down your brain. Bosnia in medieval times where ruled by serbian ban and later kings, one of those kings - Твртко Котроманић (Tvrtko Kotromanic) was crowned for King of Serbia and Bosnia, he said he united serbian people under one state and one king, that was 1377, in 1390 he was crowned for king of Croatia as well, which mean he was the first yugoslav king kinda. That mean bosnia was serbian. Vojvodina or todays name Northern Serbia was hungarian but because Hungary was part of Austria-Hungary and invaded and lost in Serbia, Vojvodina was gave to Serbia as reward plus 500,000 serbs lived there. Thats why it is called Vojvodina which means Dukedom because serbs had Vojvoda / Duke to rule in behalf of austrian crown.


Im sorry, but serbia seased to be socialist republic aswell ...first one to do it. Removed it from its constitution ...why you no answer that you shit? ...why you no attack serbian rebels who spited on yugoslav constitution and socialism?

Croatia existed for 1000 years dumbass xD ...it was always a kingdom of slavonia, croatia and dalmatia as a part of first united with hungary and then as a part of habsburg empire with bans and parliament ...history proffesor jesus fuckin christ. And does borders were always basicly the same ...when croats wanted to join their triple kingdom in habspurg empire ...serbs protested ...we lost land ...austria refused to return bosnia as a part of croatia, even refused to give krajina at first.

Tvrtko Kotromanic crowned himself King of Bosnia and Serbia ...BUT!:

• serbia part was just a political title to make his claim stronger. He didnt even rule a considerable part of serbia xD ...he had just a little piece of serbia
• Kotromanici were not serbs AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! ...hungarian king declared himself king of croats ...IS HE A CROAT!!! xD ...guess we could claim hungary xD
• btw. try looking up a bit of Tvrtko Kotromanic origin ...his father and mother etc. ...no serbs anywhere

Kings could make themselfs kings of whatever land, nation, people ...so if one takes the title of King of serbs ...it doesnt fuckin mean he is a serb or that he took the land for all future generations of serbs xD
Kotromanici had faimiliy ties with hungarians and croat families ...not serbs. They were partly croats ...serbs? no.

Btw. tito ...croats wanted their historic lands ...our constitution says what lands are does and based on what documents ...so lands according to historic borders, of slavonia, dalmatia and croatia.

Serbs wanted to be all under one country ...they wanted to take all the lands were serbs live ...you got Republic Srpska in BIH ...croats had Republic of herceg-bosnia but decided to join with Bosnia and hercegovina and doesnt exist since 1996.
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22.08.2014 - 16:33
Scritto da Nero, 22.08.2014 at 15:11

I dont really want to get involved, but i have a question, and excuse if I misunderstand. How is it possible for a Bosnian to become king of Croatia in 1390 if Hungary ruled it?

The principalities of Serbia and Croatia split control of Bosnia and Herzegovina in the 9th and 10th centuries, but by the High Middle Ages political circumstance led to the area being contested between the Kingdom of Hungary and the Byzantine Empire. Following another shift of power between the two in the early 12th century, Bosnia found itself outside the control of both and emerged as an independent state under the rule of local bans

And as i explained already Kotromanic familiy took control of bosnia ...kotromanic holded a piece of serbia and to strenghten his title and his rule he procleimed himself king of bosnia and serbia. He wasnt a serb, neither he controled serbia ...but little pieces like this serbs use to usurpe claims and integrate it as a part of their history ...this is thef of history.

P.S. GODDAMN YOU KHAL!!! ..THAT FUCKIN MUSIC xD
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22.08.2014 - 16:55
Scritto da Khal.eesi, 22.08.2014 at 06:16
kate fucking bush


You really are a flaming homosexual.

Scritto da Goblin, 22.08.2014 at 16:33
P.S. GODDAMN YOU KHAL!!! ..THAT FUCKIN MUSIC xD


^ This. It's almost as bad randomly hearing Stefan Molyneuxs voice out of nowhere and unable to find it in a sea of forum tabs.
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22.08.2014 - 16:58
Scritto da Nero, 22.08.2014 at 15:11
I dont really want to get involved, but

Wtf are you doing? Step away from the Tito!
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22.08.2014 - 19:27
Scritto da Tik-Tok, 22.08.2014 at 16:55

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 22.08.2014 at 06:16
kate fucking bush


You really are a flaming homosexual.


he is a open bisexual, didn't you knew that?
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22.08.2014 - 19:41
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23.08.2014 - 05:26
Scritto da Tik-Tok, 22.08.2014 at 16:55


Khal, would you go out with me?



Finally!i thought u would never ask <3

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23.08.2014 - 06:28
Tito ...dont teach me croatian history.
I dont come here and say serbia didnt exist for 500 years ...that would be retarded.
Serbia first removed socialist republic from its name - you claimed this as a reason croatia and slovenia ilegaly seceded ...that is dumb and has no meaning in law.

I never said croatia should get bosnia ...i specificly said before bosniaks have the strongest claim on bosnia.
Prrijazid serb name? ...what about tvrtko? What about tvrtko father? ...kotromanic were not serbs ...tvrtko took serb name stefan to strenghten his serb title.

Btw for thousand time croatia was not conquered by hungary ...half of croats accepted hungar king and joibed kongdom ...other part fought and lost.
Later croats accepted again austrian king.
In habsburg empire we fought for more autonomy ...triple kingdom of austria, slavs and hungary was proposed ...serbs always protested more autonomy of croatia (nice brothers)
Then ww1 happen.

Croatia always existed ...only her soveirgnity limited. But still autonomy was present.

I know how serbs talk ...croatia is kurwatia always fighting for others ...but you neglect to look at your own past and how you fought for turks. Could insult say servia servants ...nation who was so afraid of being exterminated in turk times that it started stealing others history .people etc. ...Example kotromanici. Example turning vlachs to serbs.

Wish king tomislav didnt save them from bulgars ...if only he knew how you would become later on. Ottoman abuse corupted you im afraid.
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23.08.2014 - 12:03
Scritto da Skanderbeg, 23.08.2014 at 11:25



New Croatia is forcing and making pressure on historians and politicians to do something, anything, even wage wars, slander, make threats, genocide and all that just so history take a look at Croatia, because Croatia is like Netherland, Belgium or Denmark, it has no(interesting) history, totally boring country, no wars, no literature, no leaders to read about.

You seriously dont know nothing about croatian history ...it would be like me claiming serbia has no interesting history, but i dont know much about it. You do that now.

- We fought the turks during does 500 years you were enslaved by them my friend
- no literature? ...no leaders? ...no no my friend ...you know whats the difference between serbs and croats? ...we dont create myths and legends out of every single battle we fought and heros out of every solider that was fighting.

You are just better then us at telling stories and myths ...and you dont know shit about croat history.

This is like thousand time you insulted my people and nation.
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23.08.2014 - 14:53
Nice insults ...nice myths.

"Lying is the higest virtue of the serbian people ...We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively" - words of a serb, not mine ...i dont invent shit like you (austrians said serbs are better figters) ...who lies, he also steals.

Done talking to a little shit who is younger then me, but lies about being 50 year old proffesor and an ex officer. ...truth comes out eventualy.

P.S. and lol ...back to 1,5 milion dead serbs are we ...after i gave you the data and proved there was only 1,000.000 casulties in yugoslavia of all nations, serbs, croats, germans, muslims etc. ...you really have a brain damage.
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24.08.2014 - 16:25
 Nero
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Laochra¹: i pray to the great zizou, that my tb stops the airtrans of the yellow infidel
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25.08.2014 - 12:49
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Scritto da Goblin, 20.08.2014 at 17:07

Scritto da Skanderbeg, 20.08.2014 at 15:49

bring your army here to see who has balls made of iron and who is little wussy

Napoleon came ...you run away
Hitler came ...you run away again

y u no stay and fight but let winter do your job for you?

...did crimea referendum look similar to this? ...insert putin instead hitler D:

both were tactics, Russian army simply let Napoleon freeze, after all Russian lives can be saved. Ww2 the strategy was to fall back and regroup, stopping the enemy in its tracks.
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25.08.2014 - 13:38
Scritto da Guest, 25.08.2014 at 12:49

Scritto da Goblin, 20.08.2014 at 17:07

Scritto da Skanderbeg, 20.08.2014 at 15:49

bring your army here to see who has balls made of iron and who is little wussy

Napoleon came ...you run away
Hitler came ...you run away again

y u no stay and fight but let winter do your job for you?

...did crimea referendum look similar to this? ...insert putin instead hitler D:

both were tactics, Russian army simply let Napoleon freeze, after all Russian lives can be saved. Ww2 the strategy was to fall back and regroup, stopping the enemy in its tracks.



You understand what happens to the people left behind when the red army leaves Eastern Europe?
People starve
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26.08.2014 - 05:16
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Scritto da Tundy, 25.08.2014 at 13:38

Scritto da Guest, 25.08.2014 at 12:49

Scritto da Goblin, 20.08.2014 at 17:07

Scritto da Skanderbeg, 20.08.2014 at 15:49

bring your army here to see who has balls made of iron and who is little wussy

Napoleon came ...you run away
Hitler came ...you run away again

y u no stay and fight but let winter do your job for you?

...did crimea referendum look similar to this? ...insert putin instead hitler D:

both were tactics, Russian army simply let Napoleon freeze, after all Russian lives can be saved. Ww2 the strategy was to fall back and regroup, stopping the enemy in its tracks.



You understand what happens to the people left behind when the red army leaves Eastern Europe?
People starve
You understand what would happen if Germany won? I feel sorry for the victims, but sacrifices had to be mad e unfotunately.
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