In response to the Banlist Question

To clarify what you are allowed to do with the banlist, we have added a new rule. The reason we implemented the banlist in the first place was to curve the amount of trolls people had in games, specifically UN games.

See Rule #23:
http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=1843

This is an archived of the process of the banlist conversation:
http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14174

When certain players start demanding "that we have the right to ban whoever we please for whatever reason," that brings down the quality of enjoyment that other players may have from the ego-maniac, power-driven players similarly to a mafia shakedown. "Do this or else ban" is an idea we are fully against. Just because you build a nice park for the public, does not give you the right to exclude people from coming to it because you don't like their skin color or religon. It is wrong. This isn't up for debate; there is a rule in place now.

Feel free to keep doing your strike as long as you want. I believe in freedom of protest.

Thank you mods

Agree

Wow this is bullshit ...i don't agree with anyone here, not the map makers or the mods.

Again instead of making a rule with exact list of reasons on which someone can ban a person, you made once more a poorly made rule that is open for your own arbitrary decisions.

I agree map makers should have reasons to ban, but you didn't name does reasons and left a rule that can be interpreted by the "judge" as he pleases, in this case you the mods.

Badly done

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 07:46

Wow this is bullshit ...i don't agree with anyone here, not the map makers or the mods.

Again instead of making a rule with exact list of reasons on which someone can ban a person, you made once more a poorly made rule that is open for your own arbitrary decisions.

I agree map makers should have reasons to ban, but you didn't name does reasons and left a rule that can be interpreted by the "judge" as he pleases, in this case you the mods.

Badly done

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

I agree with this, calling us racists because we judge on skin color? when have we done this? youre analogies are shit cthulhu, if you want to make a rule please make it clear, I already said this is why we are having these issues, you cant think through your actions and make rules that are clear.

And what of when players constantly bash maps and troll them without breaking rules? we just ignore them and let them continue to be a nuisance, because mods say we arent allowed to ban them? this is once again a decision mods make thinking that they are the only ones impacted by their rules.

I really support the mods in this decision.... I just... well personally disagree that you can't ban people from games for personal reasons. cause i don't have very many people on my banlist, and all of them are justified at one layer or another.

I don't want to be known as a rule breaker, and a cheater. so i will remove people from my banlist if necessary, but i do not agree wholly with this new rule.

Scritto da Columna Durruti, 19.01.2015 at 07:38

you can delete and edit Ivan messages?

OMG YOU ARE IVAN I AWAY KNEW IT!

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btw guys, Mods clearly refered to banlist on Maps and Scenarios you've made, not in the banlist of games you host. Don't remove people yet.

Scritto da Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 09:07

And what of when players constantly bash maps and troll them without breaking rules? we just ignore them and let them continue to be a nuisance, because mods say we arent allowed to ban them? this is once again a decision mods make thinking that they are the only ones impacted by their rules.

I know I know how to solve everything!!!

Put in all your maps:

"Follow rules or you will be banned. You have been warned.

Rule #1. If you do this, you are banned.
Rule #2. If you win, you are banned.
Rule #3. If you lose, you are banned.
Rule #4. if you don't join, you are banned."

Since you can ban players that do uk france alliance on colonial maps, why no ban players that disobey a Map or Scenario's rule?

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 07:46

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

Reasons not listed by the mapmaker. If the mapmaker does not provide reasons for the ban, the ban can be revoked.

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:02

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 07:46

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

Reasons not listed by the mapmaker. If the mapmaker does not provide reasons for the ban, the ban can be revoked.

"Left Turn 4"

Is that enough reasons?

Scritto da Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:03

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:02

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 07:46

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

Reasons not listed by the mapmaker. If the mapmaker does not provide reasons for the ban, the ban can be revoked.

"Left Turn 4"

Is that enough reasons?

That and a screenshot along with it.

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:06

Scritto da Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:03

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:02

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 07:46

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

Reasons not listed by the mapmaker. If the mapmaker does not provide reasons for the ban, the ban can be revoked.

"Left Turn 4"

Is that enough reasons?

That and a screenshot along with it.

So you are calling me a liar?

Scritto da Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:09

So you are calling me a liar?

That I already know, you backstabed me when we were rank 4

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:02

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 07:46

"the mapmakers are not allowed to ban a player on a map/scenario for personal reasons or reasons not listed" ...em i not seeing something here? Where is this list?

Reasons not listed by the mapmaker. If the mapmaker does not provide reasons for the ban, the ban can be revoked.

Doesnt make sense Pulse ...doesnt make sense. Reasons listed by the map maker? ...if that is to be respected, i could make "insults" as a reason on my map.

I feel like their is some mistrust here (prob due past events), map makers make one of your own to an advisor, so that he can talk about your complaints to lets say columna durruti(or any other mod you prefer). Rather then making this posts that wont do much.

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 11:14

Doesnt make sense Pulse ...doesnt make sense. Reasons listed by the map maker? ...if that is to be respected, i could make "insults" as a reason on my map.

If you're banning someone from your map, you have to write why you're banning them. Insults belong to personal reasons, so that's bound to get revoked.

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:20

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 11:14

Doesnt make sense Pulse ...doesnt make sense. Reasons listed by the map maker? ...if that is to be respected, i could make "insults" as a reason on my map.

If you're banning someone from your map, you have to write why you're banning them. Insults belong to personal reasons, so that's bound to get revoked.

bitch plz, one time i got a warning for trash-talking a map.

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:20

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 11:14

Doesnt make sense Pulse ...doesnt make sense. Reasons listed by the map maker? ...if that is to be respected, i could make "insults" as a reason on my map.

If you're banning someone from your map, you have to write why you're banning them. Insults belong to personal reasons, so that's bound to get revoked.

Add to my Roman Empire map:
4) Have good gamesmanship, don't insult people

Is that personal?

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:20

If you're banning someone from your map, you have to write why you're banning them. Insults belong to personal reasons, so that's bound to get revoked.

Who says its a personal reason and that you can define it as that? ...if that person is insulting my map in front of other players and insulting me that can prove badly for my map.

Personal reason would be: ..."i dont like that guy", "gona ban you because your from that clan", "you beat me in a game and im angry"

Scritto da notserral, 19.01.2015 at 11:20

Scritto da Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 11:14

Doesnt make sense Pulse ...doesnt make sense. Reasons listed by the map maker? ...if that is to be respected, i could make "insults" as a reason on my map.

If you're banning someone from your map, you have to write why you're banning them. Insults belong to personal reasons, so that's bound to get revoked.

"Any behavior that may alienate a player or disrupt their ability to enjoy the map may result in a ban"

Remember that first turn walfucking being bad is a n opinion. UK-France alliance being bad is an opinion. Personal opinion. Where do we draw the line?

Goblin you are being ridiculous.Im surprised pulse still havent called you out for it lol.You guys cried for official rule and now you got one.Maybe try to work with this,instead of keep fighting, i dunno..also tunder you backstabed pulse?You really backstabed the best mod?(sorry aqui <3) you are done man, forever on my enemylist from now on tunder..

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 11:48

You really backstabed the best mod?(sorry aqui <3)

Don't worry, I will put you into-attention

Scritto da Acquiesce, 19.01.2015 at 10:12

~Acquiesce vs ~Pulse.