Biggwall problems.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

>mk & illyria ... omygod you just totally lost my interest there... how many times did chill/hollister/syrian leave illyria because of the fking drama it has in the clan? Maybe you guys have no drama about rewall, no ofc you guys dont, because if one of you guys does rewall which is legitm gaymove, all of you guys '''support''' your clanmember, I see khal here insulting goblin because he is telling you to stop acting this way? Mk has 3 people who play cw's MAUZER MAUZER AND MAUZER. Nice clanrelationship right? I heard from people who have left illyria the clan is a big mess because only ''laochra/khal/lp/skend & acq could CW'' If you call dividing the clan in levels a ''good relationship'' you should not talking here because you would make absollutely no sense at all..

waffel i find you qute and fun, but now you are spourting lies and its not cute anymore.You are borderline stalking/harassing laochra and you sound schizofrenic, paranoid.Crazy.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

how many times did chill/hollister/syrian leave illyria because of the fking drama it has in the clan?

chill, hollister syrian did not leave about any drama.But why illyria parted with them is non of your damn business anyway.Clans part with people all the time, what makes us so special, that we shouldnt?

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

I see khal here insulting goblin because he is telling you to stop acting this way?

As for goblin, i have supported him in the past against my own, Laochra.In that tournament debate.Because, i always follow my gut on these things.And now it was telling me that goblin was acting like an asshole

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

Mk has 3 people who play cw's MAUZER MAUZER AND MAUZER. Nice clanrelationship right?

Nice, you basically just insulted all MK.Eagle, Steve,Don, what are they?I love these guys and they are all MK, not only Mauzer.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

I heard from people who have left illyria the clan is a big mess because only ''laochra/khal/lp/skend & acq could CW'

Yeah lol.Thats ridiculous.And a lie.Who are these people?Trinig?Who else?We begged chill to cw.And Syrian despite being an annoying troll in Cws, he still was playing whenever he wanted.And personally, i have never stepped out so much for Cws as i have in Illyria.Dont try to paint us in dark colours, its not gonna work.Illyria is a family.Go be jealus somewhere else, thanks

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if your idea of creativity and competitiveness amounts to finding out how to wf people turn 1 without touching their boarders then good luck to you. Perhaps its better off that you do stop playing.

notice a change in the tone of my post? i dislike the last sentence in your post. seems very much like a veiled dig. You goblin and waffel seem very much to have "its my way or the highway" perspective on all this. You refuse to listen to reason or logic. A majority rules vote can sort all this out for good. no more drama on walls. If you dont like the outcome then the highway is always open to you.

ill accept whatever happens, at least ill finally know where i stand.

You are going over the same point again and again. I said my piece on what I thought of the legality of WF's turn one.

You Khal seem very much to have "its my way or the highway" perspective on all this. You refuse to listen to reason or logic. (right back at you mate) - Please don't confuse a differing opinion with personal attacks, I have done none of the latter throughout this thread,

also don't bunch my opinion to be the same as either goblins or waffles, they are all different on different aspects of the argument. I'm beginning to think anyone who has an opposing view is bunched into one group by you.

''Kill chances of clans being able to cw each other because they dont share same values and end up with, the same boring cws between 2-4 clans each time. You spoke of a great relationship with MK, maybe they will be only ones willing to cw you in future, the rest off us might just stop playing...who knows.''


That is the full part of what you are angry about, don't fucking cherry pick the shit that annoys you and ignore the valid point I make just before it. It was said because in YOUR eyes MK are the only clan that share your present values, even with a 'vote' people won't suddenly conform to the values and as YOU said these threads will come up repeatedly. You are getting angry at your own logic mate.

Yeah Khal/Lao, different persons mate.I think you got yourself confused over there.Bonk in the end, both myself and lao, admitted we cannot reach an agreement on this and that we should leave it be..I even said that while i disagree with you, im gonna respect your opinion.No other play, here.And then you threatened, to stop cw us, lol.You are out of line, sorry.

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 17:38

Yeah Khal/Lao, different persons mate.I think you got yourself confused over there.Bonk in the end, both myself and lao, admitted we cannot reach an agreement on this and that we should leave it be..I even said that while i disagree with you, im gonna respect your opinion.No other play, here.And then you threatened, to stop cw us, lol.You are out of line, sorry.

I am in a troll clan, where do CWs come into it. It wasn't a threat its already happened as far as I am concerned.

Scritto da b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 17:42

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 17:38

Yeah Khal/Lao, different persons mate.I think you got yourself confused over there.Bonk in the end, both myself and lao, admitted we cannot reach an agreement on this and that we should leave it be..I even said that while i disagree with you, im gonna respect your opinion.No other play, here.And then you threatened, to stop cw us, lol.You are out of line, sorry.

I am in a troll clan, where do CWs come into it.

if you don't care about CWs anymore, why do you even try to influence the way people play? it leaves no room for innovation.

2 layer walls and rewalling are new tactics that are getting so much hate by ultra conservative zealots that don't want gameplay to progress.

Im aware your opinion differs from waffels and goblins, i specified this in a previous post which you didnt read evidently.

and no do not attmept to tell me what im annoyed about. even khal picked up on that last comment as being a passive dig. I'm not cherry picking, i never said a vote would get everyone to conform. Youre not reading anything ive said at all.

even if the rules as written by goblin were voted into legitimacy i would follow them. I want clarification, i want to know where i stand. I dont want people delibnerately wf'ing me turn 1 because they disagree with my walls which in contrast are perfectly acceptable.

Scritto da Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 17:44

Scritto da b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 17:42

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 17:38

Yeah Khal/Lao, different persons mate.I think you got yourself confused over there.Bonk in the end, both myself and lao, admitted we cannot reach an agreement on this and that we should leave it be..I even said that while i disagree with you, im gonna respect your opinion.No other play, here.And then you threatened, to stop cw us, lol.You are out of line, sorry.

I am in a troll clan, where do CWs come into it.

if you don't care about CWs anymore, why do you even try to influence the way people play? it leaves no room for innovation.

2 layer walls and rewalling are new tactics that are getting so much hate by ultra conservative zealots that don't want gameplay to progress.

Because I do have some knowledge on the problems in the competitive community. If Caulerpra Fruit or any older people came onto this discussion would you say the same to them?

Scritto da Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 17:46

Im aware your opinion differs from waffels and goblins, i specified this in a previous post which you didnt read evidently.

and no do not attmept to tell me what im annoyed about. even khal picked up on that last comment as being a passive dig. I'm not cherry picking, i never said a vote would get everyone to conform. Youre not reading anything ive said at all.

even if the rules as written by goblin were voted into legitimacy i would follow them. I want clarification, i want to know where i stand. I dont want people delibnerately wf'ing me turn 1 because they disagree with my walls which in contrast are perfectly acceptable.

I am telling you it was no dig, really is proving my statement about you over analyzing every god damn thing.

Tunder has a very good point actually.And also i stopped giving much fucks also, like alot of other people bonker, you are not the only one.We are not very active, by our standards.And the reason is not any of the things you listed.The reason, is that most people in atwar are low self esteem worms, that are willing to do anything just to win.Anything.I never cared much to win if i didnt deserve it.You can ask anyone who knows me.But in this game, where a nobody can create a clan in the end of the season and farm noob clans to steal the 1st place trophy or when people will exploit your disconects, will wallfuck your circle walls, anything, just so they could win.Fuck that.I dont even know why i bother responding atm.

I read everything you said, because I'm not agreeing with you, you deem that as not having read it. The conversation and my input was over a long time ago. Khal decided to come in and start name calling, starting the next two fucking pages of meaningless words.

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 17:38

2 layer walls and rewalling are new tactics that are getting so much hate by ultra conservative zealots that don't want gameplay to progress.

L O FUCKING L , rewalling new tactic? Double Walls New Tactic? Please mate . bahahahah

wait


BAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAH - you got me smiling at least

Nice fake quote

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 18:04

Nice fake quote

Hazardous words, I still don't quote correctly pls teach

Scritto da clovis1122, 14.10.2014 at 18:11

Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 17:38

2 layer walls and rewalling are new tactics that are getting so much hate by ultra conservative zealots that don't want gameplay to progress.

XAXAXAXAXAXA THIS MADE MY DAY..... AND TOMOROW TOO! XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

dont quote a fake quote.time to report..

Scritto da THE_Militia, 14.10.2014 at 15:38

Speak only English please. We don't use other languages.And be polite!

I'm not sure what's going on no more.

I'm not sure what's going on no more.

Scritto da Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 17:28

Scritto da b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

Dalmati left for the main part due to a lack of competitiveness in the community, from my understanding this started with the 'fair ranks' situation something that at the time stopped them from being able to find cws, probably an initial starting point to all these extra rules being put into place. My point was that these rules will ultimately kill creativity and in turn competitiveness. Kill chances of clans being able to cw each other because they dont share same values and end up with, the same boring cws between 2-4 clans each time. You spoke of a great relationship with MK, maybe they will be only ones willing to cw you in future, the rest off us might just stop playing...who knows.

if your idea of creativity and competitiveness amounts to finding out how to wf people turn 1 without touching their boarders then good luck to you. Perhaps its better off that you do stop playing.

notice a change in the tone of my post? i dislike the last sentence in your post. seems very much like a veiled dig. You goblin and waffel seem very much to have "its my way or the highway" perspective on all this. You refuse to listen to reason or logic. A majority rules vote can sort all this out for good. no more drama on walls. If you dont like the outcome then the highway is always open to you.

ill accept whatever happens, at least ill finally know where i stand.

Stop turning tables now.. You are the one refusing to listen to compromisses..
Goblin has come with ALOT of solutions to this, and all we hear from you is talking around it and not coming to the point. You havent said one thing about the whole solution goblin offered, he repeated it like 5 times and you kept ignoring it.
How do you expect people to keep on repeating and repeating and repeating and not turning mad/pissed off at some point? And you keep saying ''ím done responding'' when we ask you things about it or what you think about it and just trying to find a way out. If this is how you ''support'' your arguments I wonder what you are debating here?

And reffering to you and khal:
Dont tell bonker that he said '''we will quit cwing you guys'' because it was YOU laochra who said '' i will quit cwing syndicate and SM'' It wasn't us at all. You are the one backing out if you don't like it.
We told us our way of the problem and all you did was, i only accept it if its official blablabla..

Scritto da Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 17:08

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 15:46

Scritto da Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Double capital wall has no counter, The only counter for it is to WF turn 1. And since wfing on turn 1 is not legit, this wall shouldn't be legit either since the counter is not legit.

With that logic, Making a wall in your capital (turn 1) is not legit, since the only way to prevent it is by wfing (turn 1) and since wfing (turn 1) is not legit then: walling capital turn 1 shouldn't be legit either, since the counter is not legit.

Ok waffle, Making walls turn 1 is now illgeal, that skill.

Dude I don't know what you are spazzing aboutt
I never said walling capital turn 1 only counter is to WF.
I said only counter to DOUBLE WALL CAPITAL turn 2 only counter is wfing it on turn 1.
Idk if you have reading problems or whatever? But quoting you way in here (like you do in every drama thread) and just trying to pass the subject is not what I or the rest of the people in this arguement are waiting for. So do me a favour and stop turning my words?

Scritto da Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 15:32

Scritto da b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 15:13

I will repeat these situations from the previous time this argument was discussed


Repeat to me why, in any of the situations above, your opponent should 'pretend' like your 2nd wall is there, sorry mate as I have said 1000 times now it is you as a users error (or genius fine line) to attempt such double walls

ive repeated a lot. to me i was always told no turn 1 wf when playing aw. I interpreted this to incllude walls on an opponents territory. If i accidentally wf'd them i would pretend they were there, in the past i have received the same courtesy, it was unspoken and never became a problem, until w4r and mou. To me this seems like common sense and courtesy. In the case of turk there is no nearby countries to justify a wf. In syrians case it was blatantly deliberate. This is going to cause drama. There is nothing outlined in the rules, so people are going to feel differently about it and whats technically "fair".

when i brought this up in the other thread and waffel witnessed that others disliked double walls too, he suddenly felt he had justification to tell his clanmembers to turn 1 wf me deliberately in cws.

If you had actually listen to me in your other thread, I told you the only way to avoid this 2 turning walling, is to WF it on turn 1. I told you I would go do that and do everything I could to counter this second turn wall, as I also said, I wouldn't put the bomber directly near your capital incase you didnt bigwall but just triangle walled, I would put the bombers/wf near the place I assummed you would biggwall. Thats all I said, I don't justify wf turn 1, I never did and I never will, but one thing I dont justify even more is exploiting the rules we ''competitive players'' made to respect eachother and just using some ''tactics as you call it'' WF'ing turn 1 and capping turn 2 is unfair and unbalanced, We all can state that, we all have been there and we all know how annoying it is. But if you choose to make a wall there is no counter for BUT wfing it on turn 1 (we didn't even attack your capital, LIKE WE SAID, so dont come up with that) don't expect us to accept it, you are saying we are the ones saying it either goes this way or we wf turn 1. But we (mostly goblin) has come with many solutions and I think you didn't even cared less about them. How do you expect us to ''communicate or figure it out'' with you guys if you won't even listen, because all I see is you quote the things we say, you find a smart answer on it (which is mostly meaningless or not related to the point) and just end it.

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Scritto da Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 17:29

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

>mk & illyria ... omygod you just totally lost my interest there... how many times did chill/hollister/syrian leave illyria because of the fking drama it has in the clan? Maybe you guys have no drama about rewall, no ofc you guys dont, because if one of you guys does rewall which is legitm gaymove, all of you guys '''support''' your clanmember, I see khal here insulting goblin because he is telling you to stop acting this way? Mk has 3 people who play cw's MAUZER MAUZER AND MAUZER. Nice clanrelationship right? I heard from people who have left illyria the clan is a big mess because only ''laochra/khal/lp/skend & acq could CW'' If you call dividing the clan in levels a ''good relationship'' you should not talking here because you would make absollutely no sense at all..

waffel i find you qute and fun, but now you are spourting lies and its not cute anymore.You are borderline stalking/harassing laochra and you sound schizofrenic, paranoid.Crazy.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

how many times did chill/hollister/syrian leave illyria because of the fking drama it has in the clan?

chill, hollister syrian did not leave about any drama.But why illyria parted with them is non of your damn business anyway.Clans part with people all the time, what makes us so special, that we shouldnt?

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

I see khal here insulting goblin because he is telling you to stop acting this way?

As for goblin, i have supported him in the past against my own, Laochra.In that tournament debate.Because, i always follow my gut on these things.And now it was telling me that goblin was acting like an asshole

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

Mk has 3 people who play cw's MAUZER MAUZER AND MAUZER. Nice clanrelationship right?

Nice, you basically just insulted all MK.Eagle, Steve,Don, what are they?I love these guys and they are all MK, not only Mauzer.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

I heard from people who have left illyria the clan is a big mess because only ''laochra/khal/lp/skend & acq could CW'

Yeah lol.Thats ridiculous.And a lie.Who are these people?Trinig?Who else?We begged chill to cw.And Syrian despite being an annoying troll in Cws, he still was playing whenever he wanted.And personally, i have never stepped out so much for Cws as i have in Illyria.Dont try to paint us in dark colours, its not gonna work.Illyria is a family.Go be jealus somewhere else, thanks

waffel i find you qute and fun, but now you are spourting lies and its not cute anymore.You are borderline stalking/harassing laochra and you sound schizofrenic, paranoid.Crazy.

You are the one telling me in every thread I comment to stop personal attacking? All I said is giving an answer tho lao's unlogic comment, and now you come here telling me im ''stalking/harassing laochra'' In my own thread? lmao?
I sound schizofrenic? do you seriously even know what schizofrenic means? All what you are doing in this kind of comment is backing up your clanmates no matter what perspective you are looking from, insulting the people who don't agree with you and lao? I have seen this in clanchat spectator when commando and inate said something (not even to you) and you started to insult about their mothers and whatever, how can you even call me paranoid or crazy when you cant even think rationaly and have no own mind? Do you see one of my clanmates crying about laochra or you? no. Because they dont give a fck, because I started this my self, so instead of coming out of nowhere not even talking about any of the subject in this thread and just insulting people, you better just back out of all of this and go find another thread you can insult people?

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

how many times did chill/hollister/syrian leave illyria because of the fking drama it has in the clan?

chill, hollister syrian did not leave about any drama.But why illyria parted with them is non of your damn business anyway.Clans part with people all the time, what makes us so special, that we shouldnt?

As I said, illyria is none of my bussiness if you read allong (which you probably didnt). And I didn't even mention about you guys shouldn't do it. But dont say only mk and SM have great clanrelationships because thats just asking for trouble, since you are implying that the rest of the clans don't.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

I see khal here insulting goblin because he is telling you to stop acting this way?

As for goblin, i have supported him in the past against my own, Laochra.In that tournament debate.Because, i always follow my gut on these things.And now it was telling me that goblin was acting like an asshole

Idk about you guts, maybe you like to cause problems or whatever, or like to get fights with people in an online game, but this isn't the way to handle it, we are trying to sort this discussion out, its not like we enjoying having all this trouble everytime.. but its annoying, and its annoying you guys wont even put your selfs in others, you guys simply just stand behind the points you said and thats it. Now you are saying its us who are doing that but thats just repating yes no yes no yes no everytime. Leads no where.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

Mk has 3 people who play cw's MAUZER MAUZER AND MAUZER. Nice clanrelationship right?

Nice, you basically just insulted all MK.Eagle, Steve,Don, what are they?I love these guys and they are all MK, not only Mauzer.

As you can see, im being sarcastic here, and I probably shouldn't have said this but yeh, can't erase it now. So its something I have to deal with.
I didn't say they were all MK, im simply saying I only see mauzer playing, ( he is the one who needs ALL THE MONEY no matter what, and I can say this because I have played plenty of games with mauzer in my team together with eagle/knez) then probably the second player is always steve/eagle, same with illyria. You guys dont let the (lower ranks play, maybe once or twice, but its more important for you guys to win a game, and that we can see by the ''tactics'' you guys use to actually get an advantage EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 16:07

I heard from people who have left illyria the clan is a big mess because only ''laochra/khal/lp/skend & acq could CW'

Yeah lol.Thats ridiculous.And a lie.Who are these people?Trinig?Who else?We begged chill to cw.And Syrian despite being an annoying troll in Cws, he still was playing whenever he wanted.And personally, i have never stepped out so much for Cws as i have in Illyria.Dont try to paint us in dark colours, its not gonna work.Illyria is a family.Go be jealus somewhere else, thanks

I am not jealous at all? I am not trying to paint you guys in dark colours, im just stating the things ex-illyria players told me. Since you guys are bashing about our clans, we cant do the same right? Again its you guys do whatever you want and feel ok with it, but if others do something against it or do the same you'll guys get all high horse.
I respect illyria for being a family clan. same with SM. MK i have my doubts about. Clan is about having fun, not about discussion these kind of problems.

To be honest, i dont like the way you are being this rude, i dont get your whole point at this whole thread? Because all I see is you just deffending laocha, but vs what? We are trying to come to an decission in here, and yes some things in this thread better shouldn't have been said, but sometimes these things happen.

Edit: I see I faill biggtime with this quoting, teach me pl0x D:

Wallfucking is a cheap move that i've only seen noobs play (never seen a wallfucker win a match). and i dont get why making more than one wall inside of a country is bad...... it's tht guys troops, he can do whatever he wants them with them. If you accidentally wf someone or you think you might wf someone, it's really simple. ask the other guy if he would just pretend a wall was formed so there would be no exploiting. most people i know of would be fine with tht. i dont get why we are having a discussion about a person making two walls turn 1.....

Scritto da Permamuted, 13.10.2014 at 14:47

I'm sorry but theres absolutely nothing illegal about a big wall around your capital turn 1.

This is rewalling all over again. For those who oppose big walling you have three options.
1) wf your opponents first turn. (in which case you forfeit any argument you had against big walling seeing as it was certainly contingent on people agreeing to guidelines more complex than the one you just broke.)
2) Cry about it in threads like this one and hope you change people's minds. (I've only done a cursory glance of these 6 pages of posts but I don't see this as a strong method to get what you want.)
3) Get the mods/ admins to enforce your big wall ban through coercion. (Never gonna happen we don't even enforce no wf first turn.)

GL with this crusade

XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA @ Acqui post.

I think is time for set an opinion and enter this war...

I support Laochra ( And you should run, because me and laochra are used to fight in almost every post). I dont think that " A wall that cannot be prevented" and " Rewalling" mean the same. Is kinda fun to see some players to re-write the "rewalling" concept. Re-Wall mean to re-make a wall and nothing more, if there is no wall, then there is no rewall.

I also support to not put inside wall on second turn. I dont think this should be allowed, but if you take into account:

1) The big wall uses 9 units, and the simply double wall uses 6 + 3 = 9 units.

2) The high ranks players know how to zoom bug the 6 outside + 3 inside wall.And they wont stop zoom bugging.

3) Even if Laochra had walled inside, there are still some players that would break the inside wall. This happened me once while I was CWing evoL ( I walled with 8 units outside and 3 inside, I got wfed 1st turn and he still break my inside wall) and happens to me in almost every scenario when I and someone end up wfing each others in turn 1 - he do like there was no wall and break my inside wall.

How high ranks does not respect the walls is very clearn in this example:

in my tourney match aganist Chess. I told him " Dont attack kuwait. Game didn't walled it"
when the wall was up and there was no wfing unit. This is a common bug. ( And no, the wall was made and next turn it just did not appear up).

Guess what: Chess not only attacked it, but also with half of his stack.#R.I.P my general.

There is just no guarantee, with wall inside or without wall inside, that the other player will act polite and respect it. We where fine with the 6 + 3 wall.... until someone started to break them by zoom bugs. I dunno if there is even a high rank here that would respect a 6 outside + 3 inside wall.

For number 2 and number 3.... I support big wall with no inside units. Though, as I said from the start, A post wont charge this.

Scritto da Acquiesce, 15.10.2014 at 06:03

This is rewalling all over again. For those who oppose big walling you have three options.
1) wf your opponents first turn. (in which case you forfeit any argument you had against big walling seeing as it was certainly contingent on people agreeing to guidelines more complex than the one you just broke.)
2) Cry about it in threads like this one and hope you change people's minds. (I've only done a cursory glance of these 6 pages of posts but I don't see this as a strong method to get what you want.)
3) Get the mods/ admins to enforce your big wall ban through coercion. (Never gonna happen we don't even enforce no wf first turn.)

GL with this crusade

1) I promise you i will, and urge everyone to do aswell
2) Your clan mates were the first to start crying, because of your 1)
3) I agree, mods and admins have no right to make gameplay rules

GL wasting units trying to make a big wall rewalling

Scritto da clovis1122, 15.10.2014 at 06:46

Re-Wall mean to re-make a wall and nothing more, if there is no wall, then there is no rewall.

Big wall around the capital, 4 units wall around the capital, triangle wall around the capital or any kind of wall that protects the capital turn 2 is the same in term of his purpose.

And if you make moves to wall that capital one more time despite having any of the walls above ...its a rewall.

Scritto da Goblin, 15.10.2014 at 06:56

Scritto da clovis1122, 15.10.2014 at 06:46

Re-Wall mean to re-make a wall and nothing more, if there is no wall, then there is no rewall.

Big wall around the capital, 4 units wall around the capital, triangle wall around the capital or any kind of wall that protects the capital turn 2 is the same in term of his purpose.

And if you make moves to wall that capital one more time despite having any of the walls above ...its a rewall.

As far as I know, Re-somenthing mean to re-do the action. RE-DO. The rewall was called Re-Wall because you "remove" your wall and place a new one. It is "Re-Doing a wall".

If you have a 3 man wall on your capital and you try to do a 8 or 14 outside wall, it is not rewall. As long as you did not moved your units. The same logic is that if you have an outside wall and you wall it inside, it is not rewall as long as you dont excharge the posicion of the outside wall.

Rather that rewall, this should be named a kind of "New-wall". Because for sure it is not rewall.

An excelent solution for this problem would be:

1) I make a 6 + 3 wall.
2) I screenshot the wall, and the turn It was made.
3) If any player break both the outside and inside wall by zoom bugs, I will take screenshot.
4) I will report him to Mods, and they can punish the player PLUS make that game invalid. Because zoom bug is, after all, a bug.

Scritto da Waffel, 15.10.2014 at 04:05

Scritto da Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 17:08

Scritto da Waffel, 14.10.2014 at 15:46

Scritto da Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Double capital wall has no counter, The only counter for it is to WF turn 1. And since wfing on turn 1 is not legit, this wall shouldn't be legit either since the counter is not legit.

With that logic, Making a wall in your capital (turn 1) is not legit, since the only way to prevent it is by wfing (turn 1) and since wfing (turn 1) is not legit then: walling capital turn 1 shouldn't be legit either, since the counter is not legit.

Ok waffle, Making walls turn 1 is now illgeal, that skill.

Dude I don't know what you are spazzing aboutt
I never said walling capital turn 1 only counter is to WF.
I said only counter to DOUBLE WALL CAPITAL turn 2 only counter is wfing it on turn 1.
Idk if you have reading problems or whatever? But quoting you way in here (like you do in every drama thread) and just trying to pass the subject is not what I or the rest of the people in this arguement are waiting for. So do me a favour and stop turning my words?

I didn't turned your words, you claimed double layer walls are not legit because the counter is not legit, with this logic capital walls turn 1 are also not legit.

GG thanks for participating.