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26.11.2013 - 14:19
OK well my last idea was pretty much torn to pieces on here. Next I turn to a time period that has been covered before, but not in much detail. PLEASE TELL ME THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE!

I'm taking about the age of colonization. Specifically, just before colonization. The idea is that the game starts with 20 European powers. Part of the map will be closed off. Most of the rest of the map will be covered with neutral countries to be colonised (eg. Americas, Most of Africa, maybe Indonesia and Australia).

There will be a coloniser unit, that has a boost on "colonies". It is much easier to get colonies with this unit. Colonisation ships will have huge range. Some countries for example Austria, will not be (normally) colonising, but will be trying to conquer Europe, this will be difficult however, as every European city will have 1 high defence "fortification" per reinforcement number. Some countries such as Portugal might have extra defence to defend themselves, if they are too weak from cities.

Countries such as Portugal or Spain might start off with advantages, such as more colonisers (more could be gained from events for countries such as UK who started colonising later.

I would set it as total annihilation to promote colonising, but I may need other measures in place such as ahistorically high incomes for some colonies in order to create a game where people bother to colonise, rather than people just staying in Europe.

This would lead to a "Create your own empire" kind of game.

Similarly to the last post, this would be difficult, but doesn't really need much expertise. Besides, I have Europa Universalis 4 to help out.

OK, now start to point out why this has been done a million times before and that nobody will play this
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26.11.2013 - 16:00
 Utah
Http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=10379

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=8021&board_page=2

I made both, first is 19th Century and second is 18th. They are EXACTLY the premise you mentioned even with buffed neutrals and Austria and inland empires having a hard time colonizing.

Also worth mentioning, 19th has about 75 plays being new and all and 18th has 200+ and along with 13th Century is one of my most popular scenarios.
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26.11.2013 - 16:08
Don't Listen to the fool above, 200 plays is nothing now in days.

You gotta do what you love to do.
Colonizing is a good concept.

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26.11.2013 - 16:17
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Scritto da Tundy, 26.11.2013 at 16:08

Don't Listen to the fool above, 200 plays is nothing now in days.

You gotta do what you love to do.
Colonizing is a good concept.

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Ha you indirectly support my maps. But yeah OP I've been doing this entire premise in most of my maps. You can make your own version if you feel like you need to though.
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26.11.2013 - 16:25
The difference is that the world outside europe starts BLANK (v early start date). So anything can happen. 18th and 19th have america already colonized. Also mine would concentrate very heavily on colonisation compared to your general maps. It would have many more countries ready to colonise than yours.
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26.11.2013 - 16:28
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Scritto da Solair, 26.11.2013 at 16:25

The difference is that the world outside europe starts BLANK (v early start date). So anything can happen. 18th and 19th have america already colonized. Also mine would concentrate very heavily on colonisation compared to your general maps. It would have many more countries ready to colonise than yours.


I see what you mean, go ahead.
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26.11.2013 - 17:18
I really look forward for this idea. Though I am worried that the colonization will be to easy, I.e. like expanding on neutral countries on a normal map. I hope you find a good and more challenging solution for this. Btw: you happen to play paradox games? Your scenario ideas seem to reflect their hearts of iron and Victoria series.
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26.11.2013 - 18:59
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Scritto da Clovek30, 26.11.2013 at 17:18

I really look forward for this idea. Though I am worried that the colonization will be to easy, I.e. like expanding on neutral countries on a normal map. I hope you find a good and more challenging solution for this. Btw: you happen to play paradox games? Your scenario ideas seem to reflect their hearts of iron and Victoria series.


If you give the future colonies a powerful unit then make that unit vulnerable to expensive colonists then it will work. Worked in my maps anyway.
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26.11.2013 - 20:31
Just because something has been done before doesn't mean it can't be done again. i mean take call of duty for example, 7 games that are exactly the same.
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27.11.2013 - 05:18
Scritto da nonames, 26.11.2013 at 20:31

Just because something has been done before doesn't mean it can't be done again. i mean take call of duty for example, 7 games that are exactly the same.


I've read that before, keep repeating that nonsense, COD Campaign (especially Modern Warfare series) was amazing, emotional and unique. (That is, untill Battlefield started copying everything, lolol)

PS: No I'm not a 13 year old cod fanboy
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27.11.2013 - 06:40
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Scritto da nonames, 26.11.2013 at 20:31

Just because something has been done before doesn't mean it can't be done again. i mean take call of duty for example, 7 games that are exactly the same.


I already told you I don't mind...?
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27.11.2013 - 12:59
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Scritto da Solair, 27.11.2013 at 09:29

Scritto da Utah, 27.11.2013 at 06:40

Scritto da nonames, 26.11.2013 at 20:31

Just because something has been done before doesn't mean it can't be done again. i mean take call of duty for example, 7 games that are exactly the same.


I already told you I don't mind...?


That was writen by arbitrator not me, if that's what you mean


No idea how I mixed that up.
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06.12.2013 - 14:22
I decided to split countries... got 5 done so far

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06.12.2013 - 15:40
Scritto da Guest, 06.12.2013 at 15:29

Scritto da Solair, 06.12.2013 at 14:22

I decided to split countries... got 5 done so far








Why?
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06.12.2013 - 15:50
Scritto da Guest, 06.12.2013 at 15:45

Scritto da Solair, 06.12.2013 at 15:40

Scritto da Guest, 06.12.2013 at 15:29

Scritto da Solair, 06.12.2013 at 14:22

I decided to split countries... got 5 done so far








Ok well that is a typo... I would like to hear the reasons. Historical inaccuracy? Stategy imbalance? Bad borders? Too many countries?

Why?


There are many reasons... but the simplest way I can show my displeasure with what you have done so far is say.

"there are two east Finlands."


I just realised i messed up the quote, but my response is before Terminal's chronologically
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06.12.2013 - 17:23
 Utah
Scotland was independent until 1707.
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07.12.2013 - 02:44
Scritto da Utah, 06.12.2013 at 17:23

Scotland was independent until 1707.


I know. That was done because independant Scotland would be steamrolled by England. Similar to Norway, it would be to to weak by itself.
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07.12.2013 - 14:35
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Scritto da Solair, 07.12.2013 at 02:44

Scritto da Utah, 06.12.2013 at 17:23

Scotland was independent until 1707.


I know. That was done because independant Scotland would be steamrolled by England. Similar to Norway, it would be to to weak by itself.


I was talking about making it neutral and giving it many high defense units. But now that you bring it up:

Unique units could easily make Scotland equal to England in power. Scotland had many opportunities to make colonies and it could give England something to worry about since it is fairly secluded in Europe.
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07.12.2013 - 15:38
Scritto da Utah, 07.12.2013 at 14:35

Scritto da Solair, 07.12.2013 at 02:44

Scritto da Utah, 06.12.2013 at 17:23

Scotland was independent until 1707.


I know. That was done because independant Scotland would be steamrolled by England. Similar to Norway, it would be to to weak by itself.


I was talking about making it neutral and giving it many high defense units. But now that you bring it up:

Unique units could easily make Scotland equal to England in power. Scotland had many opportunities to make colonies and it could give England something to worry about since it is fairly secluded in Europe.



Like this



BTW It's not transportable. It would need to be this strong to have a chance. (Unless those bonus units interfere, how do they work and can I turn them off?) I haven't used any country specific units so far, so I'm reluctant.
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07.12.2013 - 15:52
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That seems good if its not transportable. Country-specific units really add to the depth and immersion of a map. Not using them is a bad move imo.
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07.12.2013 - 21:23
AlexMeza
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Don't quote big images

I like your borders. Go on.
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07.12.2013 - 22:10
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Before you go on it is imperative that you cut out the Asian part of the map and then make the map bigger. You will lose all progress but that is a small price to pay.
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08.12.2013 - 14:36
Scritto da Utah, 07.12.2013 at 22:10

Before you go on it is imperative that you cut out the Asian part of the map and then make the map bigger. You will lose all progress but that is a small price to pay.


I was going to allow the colonisation of India and Australia - But thinking about it that would be too long away - So I'm going to say you're right - unfortunately, it is too compressed. Well that was several hours of my life wasted
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08.12.2013 - 17:08
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Scritto da Solair, 08.12.2013 at 14:36

Scritto da Utah, 07.12.2013 at 22:10

Before you go on it is imperative that you cut out the Asian part of the map and then make the map bigger. You will lose all progress but that is a small price to pay.


I was going to allow the colonisation of India and Australia - But thinking about it that would be too long away - So I'm going to say you're right - unfortunately, it is too compressed. Well that was several hours of my life wasted


What do you mean by "too compressed"?
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09.12.2013 - 01:42
Too many cities in a small area, you can't even see country names.
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09.12.2013 - 14:33
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Scritto da Solair, 09.12.2013 at 01:42

Too many cities in a small area, you can't even see country names.


Make the map bigger and also, try to limit country divisions. A player should be able to wall a good amount of his cities.
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10.12.2013 - 15:33
So I was testing the new version and got this horrible pixilation (This is zoomed world map, no asia)



This is what the same zoom (Max game) looks like on editor. Not perfect but much better.



Why? Can I fix this?
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15.12.2013 - 10:44
I guess this means that I'm going to have to stop this - it's unplayable. Tried it again and it's the same. Going to have to decide whether to go back to old map, find a new one or stop the project. Unless there's a fix to this.
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17.12.2013 - 14:01
 KYBL
The pixelation is an automatic result of making the map played. If you have thick borders, make them thinner. Also, your borders suck, make them more realistic rather than just lines.
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17.12.2013 - 15:07
Scritto da KYBL, 17.12.2013 at 14:01

If you have thick borders, make them thinner.


It's already on 1.

Scritto da KYBL, 17.12.2013 at 14:01

Also, your borders suck, make them more realistic rather than just lines.


It is difficult to do for regions of countries as there are no defined borders (Although Wales could be improved)
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