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Postato da Cute Nooblet, 15.06.2014 - 17:55
Out of interest (mainly because I want to start banning)

Thanks guys, <3
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28.06.2014 - 09:31
Scritto da Meester, 28.06.2014 at 09:20


I don't know exactly what you are comparing them too because they are far far better than yours. Nearly all your maps are outright default map clones of clones of other peoples work. All you did for the default map was add boxes and cities and for the GGG you just added a few countries. Your napoleon map is not even special, all those countries had fixed historic borders. Europe kept good record of the borders during this period and yet you still made a number of mistakes.


You haven't named all of my maps, and apart from GGG, they are certainly not clones of other people's work.
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28.06.2014 - 09:33
Scritto da Meester, 28.06.2014 at 09:20

I don't know exactly what you are comparing them too because they are far far better than yours. Nearly all your maps are outright default map clones of clones of other peoples work. All you did for the default map was add boxes and cities and for the GGG you just added a few countries. Your napoleon map is not even special, all those countries had fixed historic borders. Europe kept good record of the borders during this period and yet you still made a number of mistakes.


If you are so amazing, then make your own.
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28.06.2014 - 09:36
Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 09:31

Scritto da Meester, 28.06.2014 at 09:20


I don't know exactly what you are comparing them too because they are far far better than yours. Nearly all your maps are outright default map clones of clones of other peoples work. All you did for the default map was add boxes and cities and for the GGG you just added a few countries. Your napoleon map is not even special, all those countries had fixed historic borders. Europe kept good record of the borders during this period and yet you still made a number of mistakes.


You haven't named all of my maps, and apart from GGG, they are certainly not clones of other people's work.


I'm far too lazy to list them all but nearly 1/2 of your maps are default map clones.
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28.06.2014 - 09:41
Scritto da Meester, 28.06.2014 at 09:36

Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 09:31

Scritto da Meester, 28.06.2014 at 09:20


I don't know exactly what you are comparing them too because they are far far better than yours. Nearly all your maps are outright default map clones of clones of other peoples work. All you did for the default map was add boxes and cities and for the GGG you just added a few countries. Your napoleon map is not even special, all those countries had fixed historic borders. Europe kept good record of the borders during this period and yet you still made a number of mistakes.


You haven't named all of my maps, and apart from GGG, they are certainly not clones of other people's work.


I'm far too lazy to list them all but nearly 1/2 of your maps are default map clones.


I make world maps, so what? That makes no difference.
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28.06.2014 - 09:42
Scritto da clovis1122, 28.06.2014 at 09:38

Ok, Tik is the leader of the strike I suppose, and he already agreed that the power should be given to trusted MapMarkers only. No need to keep discussing with Cute Adog <3 as he is the only one who support total ban privilieges to MapMarkers.


Firstly, banning rights. And secondly I think all map makers are entitled, but racial or just plain stupid reasons for banning should be reported to the mods, and mods should have power to unban them.
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28.06.2014 - 09:55
Scritto da clovis1122, 28.06.2014 at 09:46

Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 09:42

Scritto da clovis1122, 28.06.2014 at 09:38

Ok, Tik is the leader of the strike I suppose, and he already agreed that the power should be given to trusted MapMarkers only. No need to keep discussing with Cute Adog <3 as he is the only one who support total ban privilieges to MapMarkers.


Firstly, banning rights. And secondly I think all map makers are entitled, but racial or just plain stupid reasons for banning should be reported to the mods, and mods should have power to unban them.


Or better make it easier and give the power to Mods, then only Trusted MapMarkers can ask for have such power too...


But what would be the criteria be for a trusted map maker? It would just be me, tunder3, tik-tok, everyone in CS, aetius, all map making mods. What about the other map makers? leave them out?
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28.06.2014 - 09:56
Sorry for typos i am eating kfc http://prntscr.com/3xd24y
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28.06.2014 - 10:27
Scritto da clovis1122, 28.06.2014 at 10:21

Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 09:55

Scritto da clovis1122, 28.06.2014 at 09:46

Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 09:42

Scritto da clovis1122, 28.06.2014 at 09:38

Ok, Tik is the leader of the strike I suppose, and he already agreed that the power should be given to trusted MapMarkers only. No need to keep discussing with Cute Adog <3 as he is the only one who support total ban privilieges to MapMarkers.


Firstly, banning rights. And secondly I think all map makers are entitled, but racial or just plain stupid reasons for banning should be reported to the mods, and mods should have power to unban them.


Or better make it easier and give the power to Mods, then only Trusted MapMarkers can ask for have such power too...


But what would be the criteria be for a trusted map maker? It would just be me, tunder3, tik-tok, everyone in CS, aetius, all map making mods. What about the other map makers? leave them out?


Well I must admit you are cute <3 but you and hazardous already posted in public that if you guys get Ban power, you will ban enemy listed people and ignores... I dont think you are getting them on a short scale of time D:

And yes leave the others out. If they want it then they will ask Mods for it. Tik already regonized that Not all MapMarkers are responsabilized enough for use it corretly, so he support this type of suggestion ^.


We will, because Tunder3 and I obviously have to listen to tik-tok. And tunder3, tik-tok and I are going to collectivise banlist.
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28.06.2014 - 10:34
Community has been patient, guidelines have already been set.

Numerous WWII games over the past few days have been ruined. Just now, Italy wf'd, then left on Week 1. They are an RP player & RP players are known for trolling WWII.

We were told a week. Its been 3. I have asserted guidelines, I have given zero support to personal bans & have also said this should be given to trusted mapmakers. I have said evidence should be presented & amp rules displayed. This is more than enough compromise.

We cannot play our games due to griefers. The coding is done, the guidelines are simple. When are we getting the ability to auto ban griefers? Stop wasting our time, I want to start being to play these games again without griefers. We ALL do!
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28.06.2014 - 10:36
A screencap was taken of the griefer and saved as evidence. A fair ban for the future.
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28.06.2014 - 10:42
Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 08:32

Scritto da Columna Durruti, 28.06.2014 at 08:23


Ohh Adog... Doesn't really help the cause. Before becoming mod I was a normal nooby player (still am!) and a map-maker... actually one of the best map background designers and border drawers in AW. Don't come with this BS "well that doesn't really count, as you are mods". Don't insult yourself with this crap.


Well...you rarely play. And no one really dares to insult you so you cannot understand how we feel. Also, mods are chosen because they apparently care about people, so clearly you are of them social liberals. So you will always be against logic.

EDIT: I had a look at your maps for one of the "best border drawers" i am slightly disappointed.

Don't play with main but with Alt (almost rank 9). "Apparently care about people" muhahahaha... keep on trying to insult. "So you will always be against logic." Please explain this? Doesn't sound logic.
"I had a look at your maps for one of the 'best border drawers' i am slightly disappointed." Have a look at the evolution of the maps... World of Eben are the first projects with slightly shitty borders... then came Steam Wars (3rd place in Autismus Maximus contest) with great borders and Battle Grid and Foundation's Edge (made for competitive map contest), also with excellent border quality... in these three maps you wont find one single border overlapping or space between borders. They are just perfect. Have a look at these last three maps!
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28.06.2014 - 10:43
Perhaps the auto ban feature should be (as mentioned before) the name and ss of the player who committed the act send to game mods who can then ban. this way, if the player says they were unustly banned, the ss can be used as evidence
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30.06.2014 - 05:50
Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 11:18

Somebody is getting banned permanently from my maps


This type of behaviour is not very conducive to a favorable outcome regarding the banlists. Displaying this publicly while admins and mods are working on this issue is counterproductive. It only makes them more hesitant. It only makes things worse, and it takes us a step backwards, allowing those who are against the banlists to say out loud " SEE. THEY WANT TO ABUSE IT"

No, most of us don't. We need this list, and please allow map makers to ban at will. We need it
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30.06.2014 - 08:21

Muhahahaha...
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30.06.2014 - 15:10
Scritto da Professor Adog, 28.06.2014 at 08:32

Scritto da Columna Durruti, 28.06.2014 at 08:23


Ohh Adog... Doesn't really help the cause. Before becoming mod I was a normal nooby player (still am!) and a map-maker... actually one of the best map background designers and border drawers in AW. Don't come with this BS "well that doesn't really count, as you are mods". Don't insult yourself with this crap.


Well...you rarely play. And no one really dares to insult you so you cannot understand how we feel.


Actually...he can
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01.07.2014 - 17:51
 Utah
I don't understand what all the fuss about. Just give the rights to trusted mapmakers, like Tik said, and others can apply. If this is stalling my banlist I will be very displeased.
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02.07.2014 - 05:23
Scritto da Pinheiro, 24.06.2014 at 14:11

Scritto da Tik-Tok, 24.06.2014 at 10:38
You system is broke. We intend to fix it.

One person didn't act in one occasion, so the system is obviously broken.

I've supported your suggestion and was willing to help, but your fully negative point of view make me wanna sit and watch your perfect system working.


Which is exactly what mods did while the game was being ruined consecutively, by players that knew eachother, taking turns. Of course you are not one of them, but it was the "sit and watch" part that caused the outrage and the request for such a list. Whenever a thread like this was created, asking for a banlist, I was always against it every single time. Untill now. Right now I can go and ruin a few games without any consequences. If there's any freedom that I want taken from me, that's the one.


Scritto da Columna Durruti, 21.06.2014 at 07:34

Scritto da Professor Adog, 21.06.2014 at 05:45

Anyone who thinks that we shouldn't be able to ban who we want are clearly mad, we spend hours (well atleast the good map makers) making maps. We deserve that right, if you think we are ass holes guess what... MAKE YOUR OWN MAP.

Don't make maps for your ego! Make them for fun and to deliver quality to the game. If you just want a bunch of players able to enjoy them, then just do not publish them.


Without even a little bit of ego, AtWar would have 0 (zero) maps. This kind of sefless "I'll give my time (which is more important than pretty much anything) just for the sake of the "awesome aw community" is retarded. The typical altruistic "I'll die for you" bullshit. Stop giving this kind of advice.
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02.07.2014 - 08:18
Scritto da Unleasheds Wrath, 02.07.2014 at 05:23

Without even a little bit of ego, AtWar would have 0 (zero) maps. This kind of sefless "I'll give my time (which is more important than pretty much anything) just for the sake of the "awesome aw community" is retarded. The typical altruistic "I'll die for you" bullshit. Stop giving this kind of advice.

That's why I said FOR FUN!!! No altruism, fuck altruism, altruism creates dependency and does not empower people. I said for FUN!!! Luddism!!!
Btw, those map-makers that do maps for ego and just move some cities around and make some shitty borders... really have ego problems!
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02.07.2014 - 10:40
What if... We give the ban function to tik-tok and see how it goes. If it goes good: you give it to the "trusted" map makers that he names, then if that goes well, you give it to trusted map makers they name. And if that goes good: you give it to everybody.
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02.07.2014 - 10:48
Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:40
What if... We give the ban function to tik-tok and see how it goes.

Ban function to every map-maker and misuse will be punished.
Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:40
If it goes good: you give it to the "trusted" map makers that he names...

He? Who? Why?
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02.07.2014 - 10:53
Scritto da Columna Durruti, 02.07.2014 at 10:48

Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:40
What if... We give the ban function to tik-tok and see how it goes.

Ban function to every map-maker and misuse will be punished.
Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:40
If it goes good: you give it to the "trusted" map makers that he names...

He? Who? Why?


Tik-tok, because he is superior map maker :3
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02.07.2014 - 13:05
If you just give it to tik tok, that's fine by me too. In fact, I kinda like this idea more than giving it to everyone. I know for sure he won't abuse it.
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02.07.2014 - 13:06
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Scritto da Unleasheds Wrath, 02.07.2014 at 13:05

If you just give it to tik tok, that's fine by me too. In fact, I kinda like this idea more than giving it to everyone. I know for sure he won't abuse it.
I have to agree.
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02.07.2014 - 13:18
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Scritto da Guest, 02.07.2014 at 13:06

Scritto da Unleasheds Wrath, 02.07.2014 at 13:05

If you just give it to tik tok, that's fine by me too. In fact, I kinda like this idea more than giving it to everyone. I know for sure he won't abuse it.
I have to agree.

Tik is very good people.
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02.07.2014 - 14:05
Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:40

What if... We give the ban function to tik-tok and see how it goes. If it goes good: you give it to the "trusted" map makers that he names, then if that goes well, you give it to trusted map makers they name. And if that goes good: you give it to everybody.

It will probably get implemented in the last step you've mentioned already.
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02.07.2014 - 17:03
Scritto da Pinheiro, 02.07.2014 at 14:05

Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 10:40

What if... We give the ban function to tik-tok and see how it goes. If it goes good: you give it to the "trusted" map makers that he names, then if that goes well, you give it to trusted map makers they name. And if that goes good: you give it to everybody.

It will probably get implemented in the last step you've mentioned already.


Giving to everyone won't work, yes i seem to be contradicting myself, but I assumed that the abuse of the ban-list function would be minimal - then i met people from tempted legion. It's best just to keep it to the trusted map makers for now.
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02.07.2014 - 17:06
Scritto da Columna Durruti, 02.07.2014 at 08:18

Scritto da Unleasheds Wrath, 02.07.2014 at 05:23

Without even a little bit of ego, AtWar would have 0 (zero) maps. This kind of sefless "I'll give my time (which is more important than pretty much anything) just for the sake of the "awesome aw community" is retarded. The typical altruistic "I'll die for you" bullshit. Stop giving this kind of advice.

That's why I said FOR FUN!!! No altruism, fuck altruism, altruism creates dependency and does not empower people. I said for FUN!!! Luddism!!!
Btw, those map-makers that do maps for ego and just move some cities around and make some shitty borders... really have ego problems!


> Saying i have ego problems
> Saying i just move cities around
> Worst of all, says that I have shitty borders.
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02.07.2014 - 17:26
Scritto da Professor Adog, 02.07.2014 at 17:06

> Saying i have ego problems
> Saying i just move cities around
> Worst of all, says that I have shitty borders.

You assume I'm talking about you.
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02.07.2014 - 17:35
Scritto da Columna Durruti, 02.07.2014 at 17:26

Scritto da Professor Adog, 02.07.2014 at 17:06

> Saying i have ego problems
> Saying i just move cities around
> Worst of all, says that I have shitty borders.

You assume I'm talking about you.


Columna is clearly talking about me, and my humble ego.


I am the nicest map maker
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04.07.2014 - 05:18
Scritto da Tundy, 02.07.2014 at 17:35

Scritto da Columna Durruti, 02.07.2014 at 17:26

Scritto da Professor Adog, 02.07.2014 at 17:06

> Saying i have ego problems
> Saying i just move cities around
> Worst of all, says that I have shitty borders.

You assume I'm talking about you.


Columna is clearly talking about me, and my humble ego.


I am the nicest map maker


Omggggg tunder u meanie Columna is my bae
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