The anti-sjw rabbit hole

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 10.11.2018 at 20:11

Scritto da boywind2, 10.11.2018 at 18:10

Assuming a trend to continue when there is absolutely no reason to assume it to change is wrong

Also, the flynn effect simply stopped in the west and Africans still are less intelligent than whites in the US

And no, I don't need the bell curve to prove things that literally every study on IQ differences between whites and blacks in the US and also every SAT since their conception has shown.

"absolutely no reason to assume it?" are you out of your fucking mind? there are loads of reasons why the trend won't continue on. it boggles my mind how you can be so adamant about the continuation of this trend without the slightest notion of skepticism.

experts agree that the flynn effect has four main causes: better health, better nutrition, more and better education, and rising standards of living. if you've ever stepped out into the ghettos in the states, it would be quite fucking obvious that these key points are at subpar standards. so there is no reason to even assume that the flynn effect had simply stopped in the west.

oh, you don't want to use the bell curve? please tell me these other studies on iq differences between whites and blacks. i would love to know.

Scritto da Acquiesce, 10.11.2018 at 20:21

Thanks. The post's meaning is very simple: it isn't only in "a couple articles" that we can observe animus towards white people. It's actually a very common and growing theme in progressive journalism. Now I'm not a one man research institute, but what evidence would be sufficient to prove that trend for you? Salon magazine gets 15 million monthly unique visitors and it's putting out headlines like "White Men Must Be Stopped" regularly. I suggest you start reading some Buzzfeed, Vox, and NYT and you can see it for yourself. And yes, the Democratic Party is certainly alienating whites, which would be clear if you looked at recent polling data.

yes some leftist have animosity towards whites. however, the original point that tripitz made was that all leftists are anti white which is not true in the slightest.

The funny thing is that I recently just read an article about salaries/wealth by different ethnic groups in America. Asians of course are at the top, but immigrants from Africa actually are richer than white americans now (keep in mind immigrants, not native-born in America) and have a bachelor's degree rate of 49.6%, compared to white american's rate of only 24.8%. This dispels the notion that the neo-nazi Tippiz stated, where he claimed that people of African descent are less intelligent than other races. Africa immigrants seem to actually be smarter than the average native-born immigrant due to their higher college graduation rate and higher socioeconomic status.

I guess racist neo-nazis like Tipiz are at the bottom as per his own definition of "subhuman", as most neo-nazis tend to be lower-middle class and a plurality of them are on some sort of welfare. So by his own definition, his own neo-nazi buddies are subhuman due to their low iq and inability to get normal jobs

Scritto da Player 999, 10.11.2018 at 22:06

The funny thing is that I recently just read an article about salaries/wealth by different ethnic groups in America. Asians of course are at the top, but immigrants from Africa actually are richer than white americans now (keep in mind immigrants, not native-born in America) and have a bachelor's degree rate of 49.6%, compared to white american's rate of only 24.8%. This dispels the notion that the neo-nazi Tippiz stated, where he claimed that people of African descent are less intelligent than other races. Africa immigrants seem to actually be smarter than the average native-born immigrant due to their higher college graduation rate and higher socioeconomic status.

This is all true, but cuts both ways. It equally dispels the notion held by those on the left who think every group inequity is due to discrimination, marginalization, and bigotry. Unless America is randomly less racist against those Africans who are fresh off the boat.

Scritto da boywind2, 10.11.2018 at 21:35

"absolutely no reason to assume it?" are you out of your fucking mind? there are loads of reasons why the trend won't continue on. it boggles my mind how you can be so adamant about the continuation of this trend without the slightest notion of skepticism.

Well, there is one reason you could expect birthrates to rise again, and immigration to drop. If you can think of more, please tell me. That reason would be a right wing government coming to power, and it's what I want.

Scritto da boywind2, 10.11.2018 at 21:35

experts agree that the flynn effect has four main causes: better health, better nutrition, more and better education, and rising standards of living. if you've ever stepped out into the ghettos in the states, it would be quite fucking obvious that these key points are at subpar standards. so there is no reason to even assume that the flynn effect had simply stopped in the west.

oh, you don't want to use the bell curve? please tell me these other studies on iq differences between whites and blacks. i would love to know.

"Dickens and Flynn (2006, this issue) challenge our hypothesis. They claim that ''no one can really trace the Black-White IQ gap in the United States back to its origins'' (p. 913) and that in the United States, Blacks have gained ''4 to 7 IQ points on non-Hispanic Whites between 1972 and 2002'' (p. 913). But to maintain that ''no one can really trace the . . . gap back to its origins,'' Dickens and Flynn had to sidestep our citation of Shuey's (1966) review of the literature, which shows that Black- White IQ differences in the United States have remained at 15 to 18 points, or 1.1 standard deviations, for nearly a century. For example, she found 23,596 Black draftees in World War I (1917) had an IQ of 83 (vs. 100 for Whites), with a Black overlap of the White mean of 13%. For recent data, we cited the meta-analysis by Roth, Bevier, Bobko, Switzer, and Tyler (2001), which also shows a mean difference of 1.1 standard deviations (range of 0.38 to 1.46 standard deviations, depending on the test's g loading), based on 6,246,729 individuals from military, corporate, and higher-education samples. Roth et al. found any narrowing of the gap was ''either small, potentially a function of sampling error . . . or nonexistent for highly g loaded instru- ments'' (p. 323, italics added)."

Ok, look, EVERY study done since the conception of IQ tests showed a gap between whites and blacks. Just fucking google it. Or read the wikipedia Article on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#United_States_test_scores.

Scritto da Player 999, 10.11.2018 at 22:06

The funny thing is that I recently just read an article about salaries/wealth by different ethnic groups in America. Asians of course are at the top, but immigrants from Africa actually are richer than white americans now (keep in mind immigrants, not native-born in America) and have a bachelor's degree rate of 49.6%, compared to white american's rate of only 24.8%. This dispels the notion that the neo-nazi Tippiz stated, where he claimed that people of African descent are less intelligent than other races. Africa immigrants seem to actually be smarter than the average native-born immigrant due to their higher college graduation rate and higher socioeconomic status.

I guess racist neo-nazis like Tipiz are at the bottom as per his own definition of "subhuman", as most neo-nazis tend to be lower-middle class and a plurality of them are on some sort of welfare. So by his own definition, his own neo-nazi buddies are subhuman due to their low iq and inability to get normal jobs

Yea, I'm not retarded, I know about the Nigerians being really successful.

Whats happening there is though, that the richest Nigerian families send their most intelligent children to the US (others wouldn't even be allowed to immigrate due to the US' strict migration policies) and when you take the 10% most intelligent Nigerians, you'll obviously get people who are more intelligent than the average white. The Nigerian government is now pleading for these people to come back, because this brain drain hurt them severely.

It's funny how you call me a Nazi btw. I believe, what Winston Churchill believed, that Britain should stay white (one of his campaign slogans) and what the Americans in the 40's believed, that America should stay majority white.
I hold the beliefs that the people who defeated the nazis had, therefor in your mind I'm a nazi.

Retard.

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 11.11.2018 at 10:10

Whats happening there is though, that the richest Nigerian families send their most intelligent children to the US (others wouldn't even be allowed to immigrate due to the US' strict migration policies) and when you take the 10% most intelligent Nigerians, you'll obviously get people who are more intelligent than the average white. The Nigerian government is now pleading for these people to come back, because this brain drain hurt them severely.

It's funny how you call me a Nazi btw. I believe, what Winston Churchill believed, that Britain should stay white (one of his campaign slogans) and what the Americans in the 40's believed, that America should stay majority white.
I hold the beliefs that the people who defeated the nazis had, therefor in your mind I'm a nazi.

Retard.

Not really much of a comparison here, when you say that you "shared the beliefs that Americans had back then". Back then Americans were also itching to drop a few nukes on Germany, do you share that belief too? And you have clearly shifted the goalposts in regards to Nigerian immigrants; instead of arguing that they are less intelligent (which has been disproven), you're now speaking about brain drain, which is completely irrelevant to the subject.

Also your "I hold the beliefs that the people who defeated the nazis had" reeks a bit of the joke that people have, in which they say that Hitler cannot be bad, because he killed Hitler, right? A complete red herring and irrelevant to the situation. America was racist in the 1940s but that doesn't make you any less of a horrible person. And Churchill by the way caused a genocide in Bengal during WW2 that caused around 2-3 million deaths, he's not exactly a good guy excluding his role in keeping Britain motivated in fighting Nazis during WW2.

And in terms of your rabid obsession with iq, if we both took iq tests I can guarantee I'd score at least 20 points above you. But you don't see me constantly trying to use iq as some justification of superiority, do you? Regardless of iq, every human being is a human and thus deserves to be treated equally.

Scritto da Player 999, 11.11.2018 at 16:45

Not really much of a comparison here, when you say that you "shared the beliefs that Americans had back then". Back then Americans were also itching to drop a few nukes on Germany, do you share that belief too? And you have clearly shifted the goalposts in regards to Nigerian immigrants; instead of arguing that they are less intelligent (which has been disproven), you're now speaking about brain drain, which is completely irrelevant to the subject.

Do you know what an average is? Africans are less intelligent than Europeans on AVERAGE, their IQ distribution has a lower average, but there can still be incredibly intelligent Africans. You can pick thr top 10% of their normal distribution i.e. bell curve and have a very intelligent population

Scritto da Player 999, 11.11.2018 at 16:45

Also your "I hold the beliefs that the people who defeated the nazis had" reeks a bit of the joke that people have, in which they say that Hitler cannot be bad, because he killed Hitler, right? A complete red herring and irrelevant to the situation. America was racist in the 1940s but that doesn't make you any less of a horrible person. And Churchill by the way caused a genocide in Bengal during WW2 that caused around 2-3 million deaths, he's not exactly a good guy excluding his role in keeping Britain motivated in fighting Nazis during WW2.

Thats a false comparison, I hold the same views on race as the people who defeated the nazis had, and the views on race is what you determined from, that I was a nazi in your mind. I don't think of myself as a national socialist, I have different views than they have on Jews, races, IQ's, social systems and system of government. The only thing I agree with them on is "I don't want my people to die out". Btw. if I knew that some country was killing millions of innocents, I would want to see them nuked (as long as the nukes don't kill more than can be saved by nuking), even if it was Germany.

Scritto da Player 999, 11.11.2018 at 16:45

And in terms of your rabid obsession with iq, if we both took iq tests I can guarantee I'd score at least 20 points above you. But you don't see me constantly trying to use iq as some justification of superiority, do you? Regardless of iq, every human being is a human and thus deserves to be treated equally.

I think the national average IQ has a certain impact on national well being. Bringing up how high your own is in debates is simply an appeal to your own authority, thereby a common fallacy and meaningless and stupid, besides it comes across as arrogant. But since you brought it up: no, you don't have an IQ above 160 fuck off. And no, not every human should be allowed to come into my country irregardless of their intelligence, thats retarded. IQ is inversely correlated with violent crime, so, let me put it in a way you might understand: You can choose who moves in into the house next to yours, either it's going to be someone with an IQ of 70, who has a 1% chance of raping your daughter, or it's going to be someone with an IQ of 130 with a 0.0001% chance to rape your daughter. Pick.

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 11.11.2018 at 19:48

lol it's funny how u think all africans are genetically similar because their skin color is the same.

Scritto da boywind2, 11.11.2018 at 20:05

lol it's funny how u think all africans are genetically similar because their skin color is the same.

No, I think sub-saharan-africans are genetically similar, because we have studies showing, that they are genetically similar.

Standard iq test are difficult for traditional aborigonals the world over.
on the other hand there are iq tests that same aborigonals excel at & the occidental/oriental fail miserably.
iq is not about how high the number,
it is about how one uses knowledge (= iq).
for standards to be relevant variables ought be incorporated;
age/health/gender/culture/education/environment/social class/income/prospects/aspirations.
as for rape being related to low/high brow = unreal,if you can check iq of most prominant rapists/killers.

the world is full of very stupid people REGARDLESS of their iq.

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 11.11.2018 at 19:48

Do you know what an average is? Africans are less intelligent than Europeans on AVERAGE, their IQ distribution has a lower average, but there can still be incredibly intelligent Africans. You can pick thr top 10% of their normal distribution i.e. bell curve and have a very intelligent population
Thats a false comparison, I hold the same views on race as the people who defeated the nazis had, and the views on race is what you determined from, that I was a nazi in your mind. I don't think of myself as a national socialist, I have different views than they have on Jews, races, IQ's, social systems and system of government. The only thing I agree with them on is "I don't want my people to die out". Btw. if I knew that some country was killing millions of innocents, I would want to see them nuked (as long as the nukes don't kill more than can be saved by nuking), even if it was Germany.
I think the national average IQ has a certain impact on national well being. Bringing up how high your own is in debates is simply an appeal to your own authority, thereby a common fallacy and meaningless and stupid, besides it comes across as arrogant. But since you brought it up: no, you don't have an IQ above 160 fuck off. And no, not every human should be allowed to come into my country irregardless of their intelligence, thats retarded. IQ is inversely correlated with violent crime, so, let me put it in a way you might understand: You can choose who moves in into the house next to yours, either it's going to be someone with an IQ of 70, who has a 1% chance of raping your daughter, or it's going to be someone with an IQ of 130 with a 0.0001% chance to rape your daughter. Pick.

Lmao you're the one talking obsessively about iq, Mr. IQ 140. You've tried to justify your weird white supremacy with iq, and have been using an appeal to authority this entire thread. What a hypocrite you are. And germany isn't your damn country. You are merely a citizen in it. Germany would even be better off without you, as the vast majority of germans hate rabid white supremacists like you.

The reason iqs have been measured to be on average lower in Africa is because of bad nutrition/food access, bad health and access to medicine, and overall bad infrastructure and education system to the west. If Africa becomes economically equal, then "iqs", as measured by some outdated test, will become equal to anywhere else in the world. If you good ol' germans had been exploited by colonialism as Africa had been, there'd be rabid racists talking about how germans are "subhuman" due to their low iq. And you have the same views as the nazis on iqs and races. Don't lie, you have clearly shown a belief that Africans are "inferior" to you. If you'd been alive during the 1800s you'd have been a slaveholder.

And immigrants, due to selective immigration, tend to be on the top end of the bell curve... get it through your thick skull. If they are intelligent, as you are saying, then they are a help to society using your own distorted logic.

Since using your own studies, Asians have gotten the highest iqs, why aren't you praising Asian supremacy? Typical insecure white supremacist, can't even understand that your own logic points to you as a substandard human being.

Scritto da Player 999, 11.11.2018 at 20:36

Bla bla bla race differences in the brain are evil bla bla bla, intelligence is what my opponent has to judge people based on

Could you stop wasting your time telling me how evil you think I am? It's not an argument and I don't care what you think of me.

Look, you can either accept, that there are race differences in the brain or you can keep denying evolution.

I don't believe in inferiority or superiority of races, I just think they are different and all worth preserving including whites and since whites are my own group I advocate for the preservation of our identity. IQ differences between blacks and whites in the US is simply a gap between the two most well studied populations in the best founded variable in all of psychology.

And no, immigrants are not always on the right end of the bell curve, Turkish migrants in Germany have an average IQ of 83, since we got unintelligent workers. But if we had to have migration, I'd rather want average Asians, than average Blacks.

But in the end, you probably will still hate me and call me a white supremacist, because I want whites to exist in 500 years.

"if I knew that some country was killing millions of innocents, I would want to see them nuked (as long as the nukes don't kill more than can be saved by nuking), even if it was Germany."

T.406
in/out of context the above sentance is an incredible non-sence(innocents are innocents whereever they are)!
proofreading might be beneficial.

nukes ONLY work as a deterrent(looksee pakistan/india.coldwar.israel/near all middle east)!
even battlefied tactical nukes are last ditch desperation weapons.
this aguement about race/creed/colour/class/etc has been going on for millenia.
romans v "barbarians"(barbarians were uncultured/unclean/unkempt/unintelligable/undesireable/Foriegners
i have read greeks(before romans were generally of similar attitude)
generally all who consider themselves to be of a higher culture believe themselves superior to other cultures,
espcially conquered cultures regardless of evident achievement.
it's actually a pointless arguement because"ne'er the twain shall meet"

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 11.11.2018 at 20:12

Scritto da boywind2, 11.11.2018 at 20:05

lol it's funny how u think all africans are genetically similar because their skin color is the same.

No, I think sub-saharan-africans are genetically similar, because we have studies showing, that they are genetically similar.

but then the data you talked about which shows the iq distribution of the races fails because it classifies races by only its skin color

We're all genetically similar we just descend from different exodus groups.
you really need to broaden you're knowledge base = get away from wikishit read actual books from around the world.
by authers of differing nationalities/perpectives

What in the fuck are you autists even arguing about at this point

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 11.11.2018 at 20:53

Scritto da Player 999, 11.11.2018 at 20:36

Bla bla bla race differences in the brain are evil bla bla bla, intelligence is what my opponent has to judge people based on

Could you stop wasting your time telling me how evil you think I am? It's not an argument and I don't care what you think of me.

Look, you can either accept, that there are race differences in the brain or you can keep denying evolution.

I don't believe in inferiority or superiority of races, I just think they are different and all worth preserving including whites and since whites are my own group I advocate for the preservation of our identity. IQ differences between blacks and whites in the US is simply a gap between the two most well studied populations in the best founded variable in all of psychology.

And no, immigrants are not always on the right end of the bell curve, Turkish migrants in Germany have an average IQ of 83, since we got unintelligent workers. But if we had to have migration, I'd rather want average Asians, than average Blacks.

But in the end, you probably will still hate me and call me a white supremacist, because I want whites to exist in 500 years.

Why do I have this feeling you've never been laid. You're obsessed with this "preserving the white" bullshit yet I guarantee you've done nothing but be a keyboard warrior. Here is a thought experiment why don't you go and have 10 children so you can help the problem.

Scritto da boywind2, 11.11.2018 at 21:09

Self identifying as black in the US correspondends to 99% with African Ancestry, there were a shitton of cluster analyisises done on this.

Scritto da Witch-Doctor, 12.11.2018 at 02:01

You don't even have a counter argument, you just go straight to insulting me while unable to prove me wrong. Well done.

You don't know me, and the fact that I am a "keyboard warriror" should suggest to you that I have a completely normal life and simply shitpost occasionally. But still, you post a picture of some unironical neo nazi, just because thats what someone holding a controversial viewpoint you don't like must look like. You probably never held a controversial opinion in your life and you're so narrow minded, that necking yourself would probably be an improvement to the diversity of thought in your head.

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 07:30

Scritto da Witch-Doctor, 12.11.2018 at 02:01

You don't even have a counter argument, you just go straight to insulting me while unable to prove me wrong. Well done.

You don't know me, and the fact that I am a "keyboard warriror" should suggest to you that I have a completely normal life and simply shitpost occasionally. But still, you post a picture of some unironical neo nazi, just because thats what someone holding a controversial viewpoint you don't like must look like. You probably never held a controversial opinion in your life and you're so narrow minded, that necking yourself would probably be an improvement to the diversity of thought in your head.

Who said I posted a pic of neo nazies? Those could be ww2 re-enactors for all you know.

Scritto da Witch-Doctor, 12.11.2018 at 09:49

Who said I posted a pic of neo nazies? Those could be ww2 re-enactors for all you know.

Come on, this is the best you can do? Look, your happy land of no worries awaits you! It's a multicultural utopia of all races living besides eachother, I promise!

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 10:42

Scritto da Witch-Doctor, 12.11.2018 at 09:49

Who said I posted a pic of neo nazies? Those could be ww2 re-enactors for all you know.

Come on, this is the best you can do? Look, your happy land of no worries awaits you! It's a multicultural utopia of all races living besides eachother, I promise!

savage D

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 10:42

Scritto da Witch-Doctor, 12.11.2018 at 09:49

Who said I posted a pic of neo nazies? Those could be ww2 re-enactors for all you know.

Come on, this is the best you can do? Look, your happy land of no worries awaits you! It's a multicultural utopia of all races living besides eachother, I promise!

Ha because guns are illegal in germany so you have to resort to shitty nooses. Also wise man, that is a shitty setup for a noose. The point of a noose is to snap your neck and kill you. It would be more effective hanging it outside a window and jumping out.

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 07:23

Scritto da boywind2, 11.11.2018 at 21:09

Self identifying as black in the US correspondends to 99% with African Ancestry, there were a shitton of cluster analyisises done on this.

but african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category "black"

Scritto da boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:02

but african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category "black"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951706/

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 14:08

Scritto da boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:02

but african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category "black"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951706/

how does that disprove what i said?

Scritto da boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:16

how does that disprove what i said?

You clearly didn't read it.

If you feed a computer genetic data of people from all around the world and tell it to sort this data into 6-8 groups, Americans who call themselves "black" fit in with the African cluster 99.3% of the time.

Scritto da boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:16

Scritto da Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 14:08

Scritto da boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:02

but african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category "black"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951706/

how does that disprove what i said?

Stop arguing with him, he's as far gone as flat earthers

Yeah Africa is in the state it's in right because of colonialism and horribly low development and basic social infrastructure from that colonialism. Tens of millions of people were enslaved and massacred, most notably the 20 million murdered by the Belgians in the Congo, and you can't just expect people to suddenly be rich when they've been completely robbed and left with terrible institutions (education, despotic/violent governments, corruption etc). Give it 50 years and it will dwarf Europe in GDP . And watch Europe go down the town because Europeans aren't having kids lmao